Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airpor

Postby Rockingham Racer » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:32 am

Train length was the reason Amtrak couldn't go to MIC at the airport. I thought, though, they were closing a crossing to the north of the platform to accomodate longer trains.
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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airpor

Postby farecard » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:42 am

Don't hold your breath waiting for either Amtrak->MIC or Tri-rail to downtown.

I'm guessing, but it sounds like Amtrak wants a better deal to move to MIC.
On other users of Miami Central, why would Brightline throw away a competitive advantage over the others?
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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airpor

Postby nomis » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:14 pm

farecard, There was substantial public money directed towards Brightline for getting a leg of a wye installed at Iris as well as two platforms with level boarding at Downtown for Tri-Rail.
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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airpor

Postby farecard » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:03 pm

nomis wrote:farecard, There was substantial public money directed towards Brightline for getting a leg of a eye installed at Iris as well as two platforms with level boarding at Downtown for Tri-Rail.


Ahh, I've not figured out the whole confusing story. I've read of Iris here, etc. but they are just names.
I'd love a kml overlay or similar so I could figure out what trackage is where in the area.
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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airpor

Postby JasW » Thu May 02, 2019 12:28 pm

The Iris interlocking is located here: https://goo.gl/maps/e5uzFSHdHM9pifzn6. Seaboard and then CSX owned property for years that would have enabled them to build the northeastern part of a wye with the FEC tracks. CSX conveyed the property to the state DOT in 1990. While it still just shows up as a parking lot on the current Google Maps satellite view, the wye aka "Iris NE Connection" was in fact completed last year, as shown below in an aerial view photo from the county property appraiser (always the best place to get the most current aerial views!). The FEC already upgraded the southwestern wye at the Little River connection with its main a few years back. So infrastructure-wise, nothing currently prevents Tri-Rail -- or Amtrak -- from pulling right into the Brightline, um, Virgin MiamiCentral station.

Iris NE Connection.jpg
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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airpor

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Thu May 02, 2019 2:15 pm

On my January trip "down below" (huh?! that was my Father's term saying he was in Florida), I noted Tri-Rail signage in place at Miami Central (Brightline's). I also noted the absence of any Amtrak signage at Miami Intermodal (Metro Orange and Tri-Rail), and I recall seeing some on prior trips.

Even though Amtrak has the physical means to access either terminal, it's not moving anywhere. Passenger convenience "trumping" (as in Bridge and not POTUS45), operational efficiency? Not with this day and age Amtrak.
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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airpor

Postby JasW » Fri May 03, 2019 6:21 am

It's a shame that the current Amtrak station and the Tri-Rail/Metrorail Transfer station are only a quarter-mile apart, but each acts like the other doesn't even exist. It's only a very easy walk of 2 blocks or so if you're willing to hop a fence and trespass a little. Otherwise it's a roundabout half-mile walk.
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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airpor

Postby njt/mnrrbuff » Fri May 03, 2019 6:41 am

It’s a shame that at least, Amtrak doesn’t terminate at the MIC. I probably wouldn’t walk from the MIC to the existing Amtrak Station since it’s a rough area too.
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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airpor

Postby JasW » Fri May 03, 2019 8:18 am

njt/mnrrbuff wrote:It’s a shame that at least, Amtrak doesn’t terminate at the MIC. I probably wouldn’t walk from the MIC to the existing Amtrak Station since it’s a rough area too.


Walk from the MIC to the current Amtrak station? It's a good 4 miles away!
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