Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Rockingham Racer » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:28 pm

Ridgefielder wrote:What kind of man tries to beat a train across a grade crossing with two children in the back seat?

This was within a whisker of being a horrible tragedy. Here's hoping they throw the book at the guy.


Happens more than we would like to think, unfortunately. BTW, women do it, also.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Dick H » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:22 pm

So near, yet so far. #682 was nearly an hour late arriving at Woburn.
The Amtrak.com shows it lost another hour between Woburn and
Boston, arrived at BON one hour, 55 minutes late. I have seen no
MBTA or other issues that would have caused the additional delay.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:25 pm

Should get charged for Child Abuse as well!
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Trinnau » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:49 am

Dick H wrote:So near, yet so far. #682 was nearly an hour late arriving at Woburn.
The Amtrak.com shows it lost another hour between Woburn and
Boston, arrived at BON one hour, 55 minutes late. I have seen no
MBTA or other issues that would have caused the additional delay.


Tree down across the tracks in Somerville tangled in some power lines.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Arlington » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:58 am

Ian Savage of Northwestern U compiled a list of the motivations people gave for trying to beat RR crossings, and found that they were risking their very valuable lives for absurdly trivial reasons (being late for sports practice).

The same lives that lawyers might demand $10m dollars for if the RR were at fault were being risked for reasons worth a millionth as much when drivers were choosing.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby MEC407 » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:27 am

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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby markhb » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:28 am

To me, the kicker is that they weren't even his kids! I know that one thing that makes me even more mindful of driving safely is when I have someone else's kids in the car. To run the gates in that situation is despicable.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby MEC407 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:07 pm

Charges have been filed:

Portland Press Herald wrote:Derso Mekonen, 56, of Portland, was issued summonses on two counts of endangering the welfare of a child and failure to obey a railroad safety device, Portland police said Tuesday.

Each of the endangering charges carries a maximum penalty of one year in jail andor a $1,000 fine. The failure to obey a railroad safety device is a traffic infraction.


Read the rest of the article at: http://www.pressherald.com/2017/01/31/p ... rak-train/
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Dick H » Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:41 pm

With the Patriots "Celebration" in downtown Boston today, Trains
#680, #682, #685 and #687 were sold out. NNEPRA added a sixth
car to the #682 set, which then returned to Boston on #686 and
became #687. I do not have the details where the additional car
was taken from, or perhaps there was a spare available at Brunswick.

It was reported elsewhere, that passenger access to North Station
was restricted temporarily until some trains had boarded as the
station was at maximum people capacity.

Video here of #686 with six cars (2 MBTA trains before #686.)
Thanks to 16th Avenue Productions for the video 2:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvMe4hFkNvk
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby FCM2829 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:31 am

Cool! Is 6 cars + NPCU about the limit of what a P42 can handle (HVAC + tractive effort)?
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby MEC407 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:46 pm

It depends on your definition of "handle." They can pull far more than 6 cars but at a certain point might have trouble maintaining track speed. This also depends on the terrain of the railroad.

I know that the P32 can pull 7 cars, and provide them with HEP, and still make track speed. It can do the same with 8 cars but I've heard that they start to get a little bit sluggish at that point. The P42 has 1000 more horsepower, so I'd assume it could pull at least 12-15 cars, provide them with HEP, and still make track speed (especially since track speed is mostly 70 or less on this route).

I read somewhere that the P42 HEP system is capable of providing power to as many as 20 cars. I also recall reading that the system uses up to 1000 HP when operating at maximum load. In that situation, you'd still have almost 3000 HP for pulling the train. You might have some trouble getting it moving from a stop and acceleration would be slower, but eventually you'd probably be able to get up to speed on a 70MPH-or-less route like ours.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Rockingham Racer » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:29 pm

A lone P42 handles the 7-car Texas Eagle without a problem, except maybe acceleration away from a station stop.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Backshophoss » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:26 pm

A single P42 can handle 7 Superliners on level or slight grades,but if you are"mountain climbing" out west,need a 2nd unit to
get over the grades with the avg 8-9 car Superliner consist.
Figure on a NPCU = to 2 Amfleet cars weight loaded(blame that concrete floor and concrete filled fuel tank)
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby MEC407 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:09 am

7 Superliners would be roughly equivalent to 11 Amfleets, from a weight perspective, if my math is correct.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby BM6569 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:03 pm

There was a piece on channel 13 news tonight about very limited bus service because of the storm. People were hopping on the train instead to get to Boston, which was still running.
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