Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Rockingham Racer » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:32 pm

684 is by Exeter, so I guess not.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby RenegadeMonster » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:26 pm

I was on MBTA train 119 pulling out of North Station as the Down Easter was pulling in tonight.

The Down Easter had an unusual consist that I never saw before.

Facing north was an engine, followed by a single car, followed by an other engine, followed ball all the cars and the cabbage at the Boston en.


Anyone know what was up with this odd consist?
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Trinnau » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:37 pm

About once a week 686 (which arrives Boston right around 5pm if on schedule) comes in with an extra crew and any equipment being swapped out of the Downeaster pool for any reason (repairs, maintenance, etc). The extra crew uncouples from 686 and takes that equipment across the Grand Junction to Amtrak's yard near South Station. They then return to the North with any equipment cycling in to Downeaster service and usually head back to Portland as an extra. Occasionally if they are delayed they just add the consist to 689, but that is uncommon.

In short, it's how they cycle their equipment to and from the shop.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby east point » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:53 am

Thought that most work done at Brunswick? Must be rather heavy work done at BOS or is the equipment cycled to Bear?
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby gokeefe » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:26 pm

Correct. Heavy work is done elsewhere. Brunswick is light maintenance and servicing only.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby MEC407 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:46 pm

Suburban Station wrote:the station location doesn't seem to make a lot of sense from either an operating or locational advantage perspective.


The thing is, it does make a lot of sense from both an operating and a locational advantage perspective, and that's exactly why they put it there.

Suburban Station wrote: in the vicinity of union station plaza would seem to be a better location for passengers.


How so? It's a nasty part of town and it's not walking distance to the places where visitors want to stay or eat. A few pages back I did a comparison of how long it takes to get to the most popular hotels from the current location vs. the old location, based on using cabs, uber, free hotel shuttles, the city bus, etc., and there's virtually no difference between them.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Backshophoss » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:41 pm

Now that Suburban Propane as moved on,is there a developer that wants to move the Train/Bus station elsewhere to
build an office/warehouse complex on the property??
That would be reason enough for NNEPRA to study new locations? :wink:
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Cosakita18 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:52 pm

Backshophoss wrote:Now that Suburban Propane as moved on,is there a developer that wants to move the Train/Bus station elsewhere to
build an office/warehouse complex on the property??
That would be reason enough for NNEPRA to study new locations? :wink:


The long-term plan is to build a parking garage on that site and link it with an expanded PTC via an overhead walkway. I believe that's now in the planning and design stage.

Personally I'm fine with the PTC where it is. Easy to access from the highway, and virtually a straight-shot down commercial St. to downtown.

I've also heard that METRO is pondering a new bus line that would run down commercial St. to the PTC and Jetport. That would make getting downtown from the PTC even easier.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:46 am

If the local bus transit(Metro) line is finally extended to PTC,that should be the last puzzle piece needed.
The dumb Question is,What took Metro so to finally decide to add PTC to their system to begin with??
Was that another reason for the NNEPRA to study a new station site??
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Rockingham Racer » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:22 am

I think I remember taking the bus to the port about 10 years ago. Did that route disappear?
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby MEC407 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:07 am

Yeah, I'm not sure what backshop is referring to... Metro has always served the PTC. There's talk of adding additional Metro service but there's been existing service there since the Downeaster began.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:37 pm

From Cosakita18's post,as a reference point since PTC is not the "central" hub of the local city bus service,Metro.
With only one route,you wind up having to transfer to a route you need to get your destination at the "Central" hub.
A second route that serves the main shopping district would be a plus for tourists.
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby twropr » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:22 pm

Why has the service been canceled between Brunswick and Portland?
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:00 pm

PAR Freight froze an axle on one of the units,had to swap a Wheelset to replace he frozen axle/traction motor.
By frozen in this case, bad bearings/possible flat wheels!!
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Re: Amtrak Downeaster Discussion Thread

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:00 pm

PAR Freight froze an axle on one of the units,had to swap a Wheelset to replace the frozen axle/traction motor. :P
By frozen in this case, bad bearings/possible flat wheels!! :(

Basic details in the PAR forum,"up north Gawking" thread.
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