Amtrak Quad Cities Proposal Chicago, Moline, Iowa City

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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby Greg Moore » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:27 pm

Wow, I still remember when I was working for a company based in Moline back in 2007 how good of an idea this would be. The CEO there was a huge rail fan and agreed.

Maybe someday we'll actually see it.

It does seem like a good idea... let's just get it done.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby gokeefe » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:48 pm

east point wrote:The Capitol corridor has an agreement with UP that CC pays for a full time extra surfacing crew that causes twice as often surfacing of the route. There are very few delays on its route due to slow orders.


That arrangement is considered to be at the very core of the success of this corridor.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Proposal Chicago, Moline, Iowa City

Postby Engineer Spike » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:50 am

What is the present status for startup? This thread seems to have died. I have a few opinions on the topic.

First, without Iowa involvement, this project is a waste. I am a former Galesburg resident. As such, and very familiar with the drive, both I74, and 150. It isn’t that long of a trip. My thought is that a shuttle bus might be more than adequate. Galesburg might be too much of a side trip, so time might not be competitive with other modes of transportation. How about running the shuttle east? The bus could connect with rail in Princeton, or Mendota, where I80, and the BN line intersect, or are at least close. A Galesburg bus might have a saving grace, in spite of the longer dogleg to Chicago, as I mentioned. People could connect here for points west.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Proposal Chicago, Moline, Iowa City

Postby mtuandrew » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:56 pm

At that point, how about a direct coach bus from the Quad Cities to Joliet?
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Proposal Chicago, Moline, Iowa City

Postby Woody » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:52 pm

Engineer Spike wrote: opinion ... without Iowa involvement, this project is a waste. ... a shuttle bus might be more than adequate. ... The bus could connect with rail in Princeton, or Mendota ...

One way of looking at it that the purpose of this segment is to raise interest in passenger rail in Iowa, at least along the route Quad Cities-Iowa City-Des Moines-Omaha. We hope that Iowa's citizens and legislators will look across the Mississippi and say, "Hey, on second thought, we do want something like that after all."

Truth told, there's not much national interest in Quad Cities trains going up to 79 mph and taking 3 1/2 hrs to and from Chicago. But a real corridor train linking Lincoln-Omaha-Des Moines-Iowa City-Quad Cities-CHI will amount to something, come that glorious day. So we take one step.

Anyway, by allowing transfers at Chicago, the new train should feed passengers to trains like the Cardinal and the Capitol Ltd, and vice versa. And adding more train miles spreads the overhead over more trains, meaning a little less cost loaded onto the existing trains. So it will benefit the whole Amtrak system.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Proposal Chicago, Moline, Iowa City

Postby MisterUptempo » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:17 pm

Agreed. Any step, however small, is a step in the right direction, assuming, of course, that Rauner keeps his word.

Let's remember, though, that Branstad left $53 million on the table, because he and the Iowa legislature couldn't find it in their hearts to approve the $20 million in matching funds to send the train to Iowa City. Pathetic.

Unless and until Iowa government experiences a sea change in its attitude toward passenger rail, the 60 miles between the Quad Cities and Iowa City might as well be a million miles, for all the difference it will make.

It's one of the reasons why I really don't want the Black Hawk extended to Dubuque, if and when that route EVER gets started. When the revival of the route was announced, at no time did Iowa even go through the motions of offering to extend the route to Waterloo/Cedar Falls or anywhere else.

All due respect to Freeport and Galena, but those two towns are too small to justify the expense. And if Iowa chooses to not toss a little into the pot to make the expense of the extension more palatable, then the Black Hawk terminating at Rockford sounds good to me.

The best chances for rail expansion for the foreseeable future will occur at the state and regional levels, and if Iowa chooses to put no skin in the game, they can be bypassed quite easily.
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