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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby quincunx » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:35 pm

Man, this is taking forever!

WQAD - Moline expects passenger rail to be rolling by early 2018

MOLINE, Illinois - Passenger rail is on track to return to the Quad Cities by early 2018.

That's the word from Moline officials, who learned that final track work should begin in January 2017. That work includes $177 million in federal funding that's waiting for state release.


http://wqad.com/2016/11/15/moline-expec ... arly-2018/
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby Greg Moore » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:45 pm

Tell me about it. When I left my job with an employer out there they were talking about this... and it was "just a few years away". That was in 2007.

Someday...
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby gokeefe » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:14 pm

I'm amazed it's still happening.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby Greg Moore » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:05 pm

At this point we may have fusion first :-)
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby Woody » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:00 pm

So it looks like they will have the trackwork done before they will have any Nippon Sharyo bi-levels to run on this route.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby gokeefe » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:15 pm

Interesting point ... I can't think of any alternative rolling stock that Amtrak would be willing to operate.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby Rockingham Racer » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:13 pm

Ed Ellis might have some, though.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby afiggatt » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:01 am

Woody wrote:So it looks like they will have the trackwork done before they will have any Nippon Sharyo bi-levels to run on this route.

Based on the info in the NGEC executive committee minutes, the Nippon Sharyo bi-levels, well assuming no more show stopper test failures, should be entering revenue service before or by early 2018. But I would expect the first batches of bi-levels will go to the Lincoln and Wolverine service trains as those are the high profile corridors. However, once enough bi-levels get delivered, that should free up single level equipment for starting up the Quad Cities service. Should be plenty of SC-44 Chargers available by then as Siemens has been cranking them out at a good clip.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby Jeff Smith » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:16 pm

News: QCTimes.com


Illinois considers another extension for Q-C rail project

Illinois is making plans to ask for yet another extension to complete work on the Chicago-to-Moline passenger rail connection, according to a state official.

No final decision has been made yet on whether to seek the extension, the official said, but if it happens, it would be the second consecutive year that Illinois has asked for more time.

The federal government awarded a grant in late 2010 for the rail connection, with $177 million devoted to the link between Chicago and Moline.
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The rail project is aimed at establishing a twice daily service between Moline and Chicago with four stops in between and an average travel time of about three and a half hours, with train speeds at up to 79 mph. It also would leave open the possibility of speeds up to 110 mph. The last time there was passenger rail service to the Quad-Cities was in the 1970s.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby gokeefe » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:24 pm

I am amazed that after all these years the project is still alive.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby mtuandrew » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:10 pm

gokeefe wrote:I am amazed that after all these years the project is still alive.

I'm glad, since $177M is a lot of free money to give up.

At minimum, what would Illinois need to start this service? The Wyanet connection, permission from IAIS (not an Amtrak signatory) and whatever BNSF requires, a temporary station in Moline or Rock Island, equipment...?
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby gokeefe » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:59 pm

The previous federal statutes which considered whether or not a railroad joined Amtrak on Day 1 are now moot. Amtrak would simply need to sign an operating agreement with IAIS. If necessary access can be compelled by the STB but that is almost never required.
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby mtuandrew » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:38 pm

What conditions, monetary or otherwise, go along with an operating agreement?
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby gokeefe » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:26 pm

The incentive structure for On Time Performance is built in along with the basic compensation structure for # of trains. Arrangements for guarantees regarding track class are often included as well. The costs for additional maintenance are then baked in to the basic structure of the agreement. Worth noting that operating agreements for state sponsored corridors in particular often focus on quality metrics that will ensure success (maintenance standards, etc).
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Re: Amtrak Quad Cities Service Proposal Chicago - Iowa City

Postby east point » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:08 pm

The Capitol corridor has an agreement with UP that CC pays for a full time extra surfacing crew that causes twice as often surfacing of the route. There are very few delays on its route due to slow orders. Do not know if that applies to the San Joaquin route as well ?

The biggest delays for CC are trespasser incidents, fouling of the tracks, & a big one is the Suisun bridge delays. Today was especially bad as at least 4 trains took 1:00 delays or more + the following trains that missed their turn times.
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