Winter Storm Jayden 2019

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Winter Storm Jayden 2019

Postby Jeff Smith » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:20 pm

https://m.amtrak.com/h5/r/www.amtrak.co ... storm.html

Predicted extreme winter weather is anticipated to reduce travel needs – and due to an abundance of caution – service frequencies are modified this week on some Amtrak Midwest routes in Illinois, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Chicago-Carbondale corridor: Illini/Saluki & City of New Orleans
Trains 58 & 59 and Trains 391 & 392 are scheduled to operate. Train 393 is canceled on January 28, 29 and 30. Train 390 is canceled on January 29, 30 and 31.
Chicago-St. Louis corridor: Lincoln Service & Texas Eagle
Trains 21/321/421, 22/322/422, 300, 302, 303, 305 & 307 are scheduled to operate. Trains 301 & 304 are canceled on January 29, 30 and 31.
No changes on the Chicago-Quincy Carl Sandburg/Illinois Zephyr route, with Trains 380, 381, 382 & 383 scheduled to operate.
Chicago-Detroit/Pontiac corridor: Wolverine Service
Trains 351, 352, 353 & 354 are scheduled to operate. Trains 350 & 355 are canceled on January 29, 30 and 31.
No changes on the Chicago-Port Huron Blue Water route and the Chicago-Grand Rapids Pere Marquette route, with Trains 364 & 365 and Trains 370 & 371 scheduled to operate.
Chicago-Milwaukee corridor: Hiawatha Service
Trains 330, 331, 334, 335, 338, 339, 341 & 342 are scheduled to operate. Trains 329, 332, 333, 336, 337 & 340 are canceled on January 29, 30 and 31.
No changes are anticipated in Indiana and Missouri.
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Re: Winter Storm Jayden 2019

Postby east point » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:18 pm

Nothing in or out of CHI today. 29 and 49 of yesterday having major difficulty of arriving in CHI.

https://www.amtrak.com/alert/service-di ... eled1.html
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Re: Winter Storm Jayden 2019

Postby NIMBYkiller » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:02 pm

Likewise with tomorrow. I was supposed to catch the Card out of Cincinnati tomorrow night (Friday morning) but it was canceled. Truly a bummer because I was looking forward to riding that route for the first time. Flying to Boston and then taking a bus to New York instead now :(
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Re: Winter Storm Jayden 2019

Postby Tadman » Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:03 pm

NIMBYkiller wrote:Likewise with tomorrow. I was supposed to catch the Card out of Cincinnati tomorrow night (Friday morning) but it was canceled. Truly a bummer because I was looking forward to riding that route for the first time. Flying to Boston and then taking a bus to New York instead now :(


I've been on this route a few times and you didn't miss much compared to some others. Lots of it in the dark, lots of it slow. That said I've never rode the east end where the mountains are, just Chicago to Indy, Cinci, and West Virginia. The Indy leg is truly forgettable. For point-to-point NYC-Chicago, the Lakeshore is far better ride.
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Re: Winter Storm Jayden 2019

Postby John_Perkowski » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:57 pm

Back before Amtrak, the railroads added a steam generator car on the back end and continued to run.

Amtrak’s Operations Department is a bunch of wusses.
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Re: Winter Storm Jayden 2019

Postby ExCon90 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:45 pm

Maybe the institutional memory is gone. Sometime in the late 1960's I rode a 19-car non-HEP City of Everywhere across Wyoming in bitter cold; there was a steam-generator car on the rear, and everything worked fine. (Of course there wasn't a polar vortex at the time.)
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Re: Winter Storm Jayden 2019

Postby JoeG » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:49 pm

Amtrak seems to have lost interest in being an important public service. There was a time, pre-Amtrak, when railroads advertised that in bad weather, when highways were icy and planes couldn't fly, you could depend on trains. Also, railroads accommodated standees. It appears that since most Amtrak trains require reservations, standees won't be allowed nowadays.

There are some legitimate problems that Amtrak has, compared to pre-Amtrak railroads. One thing is that all railroads operate with vastly fewer employees than back in the day, so there are not many people available to shovel snow, etc. And, if roads are closed, the employees may have trouble getting to work. (Would the police help these vital crew members? I don't know.)

But the most basic problem is that Amtrak's management seems to have little interest in actually running useful train service. So, they don't try to solve these problems, such as by putting crew up in hotels and hiring temp snow shovelers. I don't know if Mr Anderson is part of the problem but it certainly existed before his tenure.
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Re: Winter Storm Jayden 2019

Postby ExCon90 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:44 pm

That last paragraph is particularly pertinent. I know that the LIRR, when severe weather Is predicted, rents blocks of hotel space around Jamaica so that personnel can be based there until ordinary travel is again possible; I think this practice is typical of commuter rail operations generally.
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Re: Winter Storm Jayden 2019

Postby tk48states » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:22 am

Agree with everything above, AMTK not a reliable form of transport in bad weather, would have thought with HEP and elec heat its trains would be fairly cold weather proof. Remember a time in the late 60’s riding the DZ across Nebraska in winter, dome lounge got cold, in Lincoln a steam generator equipped SD9 hooked on to rear and thawed frozen lines. Q knew how to run passenger trains.
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Re: Winter Storm Jayden 2019

Postby STrRedWolf » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:49 pm

ExCon90 wrote:That last paragraph is particularly pertinent. I know that the LIRR, when severe weather Is predicted, rents blocks of hotel space around Jamaica so that personnel can be based there until ordinary travel is again possible; I think this practice is typical of commuter rail operations generally.


CSX would have MARC crews hang out in one of DC's hotels until the next shift. I would think Bombardier would pick that up as well.
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