End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby Backshophoss » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:11 pm

There might be a couple of "regular" Dome cars that could be saved(salvaged) from the "great stainless steel graveyard" at Granite City IL.
Then brought back up to current Amtrak pvt cars specs,and kept a safe place between runs on the Downeaster or Adirondack,
with proper sponsorship by the State tourist depts,with some pvt sponsors as well.
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby XC Tower » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:04 am

Thank you, Backshophoss, for the information on locating a couple of dome cars for both the Downeaster and or Adirondack.
While having not rode on the Downeaster, I honestly feel that the view from a dome car adds so much to enjoying the beauty of a the route, as has been the case on the Adirondack. So much so, it could be in this day, marketed to bring tourists to a beautiful area. Upstate New York with the Adirondacks and views of Lake Champlain is stunning. Even the name of Lake Placid is a draw. The folks in the region could surely use the revenue. I am going to find an address to write someone in authority within New York State to express my opinions on this. When doing so, I will share their address (Hopefully, this is permitted on this forum)
I try to be an understated man,not bringing attention to what I have done or myself in any way, but please do allow me to say that my first rides aboard Amtrak in the America's west featured dome cars on the trains, resulting in an appreciation of the land that no other ride could. Aside from the Adirondack, in the East, I did experience the vista's aboard the Capitol Limited in a dome car.
In Canada, I have gone both west and east aboard trains with dome cars on them with the same effect. Simply put, riding in a dome car adds so much to the overall effect of riding the train as a true step out of the ordinary in life. There is no ride quite like it on one in my opinion.
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby Adams_Umass_Boston » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:34 pm

Is the Dome still stored, or did they sell it off / scrap it?

Earlier in the thread it was mentioned a few folks like the Northern New England Passenger Rail Authority might be interested in it.
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby mtuandrew » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:47 pm

Adams_Umass_Boston wrote:Is the Dome still stored, or did they sell it off / scrap it?

Earlier in the thread it was mentioned a few folks like the Northern New England Passenger Rail Authority might be interested in it.

Still in Amtrak possession. There would be riots at Beech Grove if someone ordered it scrapped!

If NNEPRA (or Indiana, NCDOT, California, whoever) wants a dome, there are arguably better options for sale or lease.
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby Railjunkie » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:21 am

Its sitting on track 8 in the Albany shop yard. Hasnt moved in weeks.
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby eolesen » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:56 am

Wasn't "Ocean View" on the surplus sale list?
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby Amtrak706 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:10 pm

eolesen wrote:Wasn't "Ocean View" on the surplus sale list?

No.
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby Railjunkie » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:05 am

The Ocean View is taking its final trip to meet the scrappers torch. Added her to Amt49(13) in Albany.
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:08 am

Meaning back to Beech Grove for salvage/scrapping? :(
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby Tadman » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:36 am

Do we know for sure she's being cut up?
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby Railjunkie » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:41 am

Was told last night she was going for scrap. Got this directly from the yard master who likely got the info from a road foreman or the General Foreman at the shop. The car had not moved off track 8 for close to 3 months. Ill check tonight with someone who has far better connections within the company than myself.

I get the car was popular but she had LOTS of issues, brakes being the biggest. It was nothing but a money pit. Hate to see it go but good riddance.
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby eolesen » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:35 am

How many other 63 year old cars does Amtrak still keep operational?...

It's not one of a kind, fortunately. Iowa Pacific has a GN sister plus most of the ATSF Budd cousins. Then there's also the two P-S full domes that still exist.
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby mtuandrew » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:48 am

Railjunkie wrote:Was told last night she was going for scrap. Got this directly from the yard master who likely got the info from a road foreman or the General Foreman at the shop. The car had not moved off track 8 for close to 3 months. Ill check tonight with someone who has far better connections within the company than myself.

I get the car was popular but she had LOTS of issues, brakes being the biggest. It was nothing but a money pit. Hate to see it go but good riddance.

Anyone have a ‘53 Corvette that needs new drums? How about one of the first 707s that needs landing gear repairs? I know a good scrapper.

Out of any possible outcome, I don’t see why Amtrak said, yup, fire up the torches. It could be stuffed and mounted and welded to the rails, and it would be a far better outcome. I know a few people who know a few people at GNRHS who should know about this before it’s too late.

Anderson et al, “Let the past die. Kill it if you have to,” isn’t a mantra you should fully live by.
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby Railjunkie » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:31 am

mtuandrew wrote:
Railjunkie wrote:Was told last night she was going for scrap. Got this directly from the yard master who likely got the info from a road foreman or the General Foreman at the shop. The car had not moved off track 8 for close to 3 months. Ill check tonight with someone who has far better connections within the company than myself.

I get the car was popular but she had LOTS of issues, brakes being the biggest. It was nothing but a money pit. Hate to see it go but good riddance.

Anyone have a ‘53 Corvette that needs new drums? How about one of the first 707s that needs landing gear repairs? I know a good scrapper.

Out of any possible outcome, I don’t see why Amtrak said, yup, fire up the torches. It could be stuffed and mounted and welded to the rails, and it would be a far better outcome. I know a few people who know a few people at GNRHS who should know about this before it’s too late.

Anderson et al, “Let the past die. Kill it if you have to,” isn’t a mantra you should fully live by.



Ill take a '53 vette with brake issues way cheaper to fix. I got to play with that POS dome car way to many times and cussed it out plenty. It didnt like to stop. When it didnt run it was due to brake issues. Good bye and good riddance
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Re: End of the Full Dome (Ocean View)

Postby Tadman » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:10 pm

Some of the last 707's went to scrap for similar reasons. I think Travolta cut his up because it was just too much to maintain, and I think N88ZL went the same way.

I hate to see Ocean View go, but at least there are quite a few in good shape.
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