Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

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Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby Otto Vondrak » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:00 pm

Surprised/not surprised.

https://wnyt.com/news/no-toys-for-tots- ... k/5015460/

The Marines call it a catastrophic move that will affect approximately 40,000 children and their families who relied on the festive delivery of donated gifts -- including winter coats and gloves.



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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby the cowboy » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:02 am

Score another one for Delta Dick! Maybe he can provide the tots with some nice box lunches instead.
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby NaugyRR » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:24 am

That seems like kind of a scummy move on Amtrak's part. I get that they're trying get their finances straightened and focus on running a railroad, but still this just seems wrong.
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby BobLI » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:14 pm

Can the moderator move this topic to the Amtrak forum for more national exposure. I’m hoping CP Rail can step up and run this train. That would be a good PR move for them.
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby johndmuller » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:32 pm

A little background on the Toys for Tots Train might be helpful.
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby SouthernRailway » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:57 pm

Why don't Class Is jump at chances to offer these things in Amtrak's place? It would be publicity for companies that need it.
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby Dick H » Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:44 pm

Here is the website of the TFT Organization. It shows details for 2017
and does not mention the 2018 Train has be killed by Amtrak CEO
Delta Dick. For those posters from NYS, please contact your US
Senators and Representatives. Delta Dick had killed the annual New
River foliage train, but WV Senator Manchin has intervened and the
train will run this fall,
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby Greg Moore » Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:50 pm

BTW, in the social media reactions I've seen almost universally this appears to be a bad PR move. Even the folks, who seem to be somewhat opposed to Amtrak (based on their comments about taxes, etc) seem to think this is a really bad idea.

I suspect this will end up being one of those penny-wise, pound foolish moves, and wouldn't be surprised if it gets reversed... or even Senator "I've never seen a camera I didn't like" Schumer put language in some bill to make this happen.
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby gprimr1 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:01 pm

A terrible PR move, a terrible decision, and a terrible way to announce it saying "It's not our business model."

Even speaking as someone who supports some of the changes coming to Amtrak, this is a bad decision.
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:48 pm

Mr Anderson does't believe in community outreach, such a pity!
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby electricron » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:53 pm

Whereas I'm not against Toys For Tots, why has Amtrak limited their participation to just the Albany area? Why not everywhere Amtrak provides services? Here's the rub, why should Amtrak treat Albany any better than Atlanta, Baltimore, Chicago, Dallas, Eugene, Fargo, Greensboro, Hartford, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Memphis, New York City, Orlando, Philadelphia, Quincy, Richmond, Seattle, Tampa, Utica, Vancouver, Washington D.C., and Yuma?
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby Backshophoss » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:23 am

The Marines deal with a whole lot of people to pull off the Toys for Tots campaign,this was the "best fit" for Amtrak and New York State.
The run to the border on the Adrondack route was done with the blessing of CN/D&H.
IT was in the same "tradition" as is done now by CSX on the former Clincfield RR.
This is community outreach type deal,that Mr Anderson has turned his back on!
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby electricron » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:02 am

Backshophoss wrote:The Marines deal with a whole lot of people to pull off the Toys for Tots campaign,this was the "best fit" for Amtrak and New York State.
The run to the border on the Adrondack route was done with the blessing of CN/D&H.
IT was in the same "tradition" as is done now by CSX on the former Clincfield RR.
This is community outreach type deal,that Mr Anderson has turned his back on!

Best fit??
Here's just a little history of the TFT Foundation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toys_for_Tots

I can't see anything about real to life trains within the history of the Foundation at all.
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby Backshophoss » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:41 am

This is volunteers working for free staffing and handing out the packages on board to others at trackside at the stops to the kids.
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Re: Amtrak Cancels Albany-area Toys for Tots Train

Postby SouthernRailway » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:28 am

Dick H wrote:Here is the website of the TFT Organization. It shows details for 2017
and does not mention the 2018 Train has be killed by Amtrak CEO
Delta Dick. For those posters from NYS, please contact your US
Senators and Representatives. Delta Dick had killed the annual New
River foliage train, but WV Senator Manchin has intervened and the
train will run this fall,


Chuck Schumer will almost certainly try to get free PR, yapping in front of a TV camera, due to this. No need to contact him.
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