City of New Orleans truncated March 2018

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City of New Orleans truncated March 2018

Postby Tadman » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:10 pm

Looks like they're opening a spillway down here (NOLA area) and CN doesnt' trust the old IC trestle along Ponchartrain. I hear all CN freight is diverting while Amtrak is running a "City of Hammond" again. It does not appear there is connecting bus service. I tried to reserve for next week and it is all sold out, no options given.

It appears the Crescent and Sunset are not affected.
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated May 2018

Postby R&DB » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:46 pm

Crescent to Capitol Limited? Yikes!
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated May 2018

Postby Backshophoss » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:12 pm

What is CN's freight detour route? Why is CN not allowing Amtrak to detour to New Orleans?
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated May 2018

Postby mtuandrew » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:00 pm

Backshophoss wrote:What is CN's freight detour route? Why is CN not allowing Amtrak to detour to New Orleans?

And why isn’t Amtrak working out its own detour via KCS Meridian Speedway and NS?
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated May 2018

Postby STrRedWolf » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:51 am

Good question. Amtrak hasn't even posted it up on their site. Maybe it was a last-minute change?
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated May 2018

Postby daybeers » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:20 pm

Shouldn't this say March instead of May?
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated May 2018

Postby Tadman » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:42 pm

Ha, yes it should, thanks for the sharp eye. Maybe wishful thinking, although it starts to get a bit hot down here in May.
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated March 2018

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:09 pm

It starts getting humid by mid April in the mid-south. :(
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated March 2018

Postby east point » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:02 pm

Tadman wrote:Looks like they're opening a spillway down here (NOLA area) and CN doesnt' trust the old IC trestle along Ponchartrain. .


That bridge is becoming a very looming disaster. Believe it had a fire back a few years ? Also a 10 MPH speed limit. Guess CN cannot jump thru all the problems associated with a complete rebuilding. SOU RR;s rebuilding of their causway to allow heavier rail cars took severl years.
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated March 2018

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:41 pm

How far away is the NS(Southern) Causeway? Might be a good time to think about a permanent reroute for Amtrak,
if the IC bridge is about to rust out!
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated March 2018

Postby Tadman » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:47 am

There's something to be said for that, although it is my understanding (and one-time experience) that Amtrak's Crescent gets held up on the north end of the lake quite frequently when inbound to NOLA. I don't yet have such a thorough knowledge of the local trackage ownership (just moved late last year) but there are far less routes into town than a city like chicago or Detroit.

Edit: Looking at these maps, you have limited options:

http://cnebusiness.geomapguide.ca/

http://sp.mdot.ms.gov/Office%20of%20Hig ... 20Side.pdf

http://wwwsp.dotd.la.gov/Inside_LaDOTD/ ... _color.pdf

You could either route over to Baton Rouge via CN, then into town via CN, UP, or KCS. You could also route over to Hattiesburg via CN, then into town via NS. Of course, all this depends on friendliness from the Class I's, which is not guaranteed. I believe most routes into town are single track, including most causeways.

Further info:
https://www.enr.com/articles/44143-earl ... r-spillway

According to this article, the spillway opens rarely - 15 times since 1931. This year its a three week event. Perhaps it's not worth spending lots of money and political capital if this is such a rare event.
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated March 2018

Postby R&DB » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:26 pm

Tadman said:
You could either route over to Baton Rouge via CN, then into town via CN, UP, or KCS.

KCS won't work. There is no connection west-bound to south-bound. All of the CN route from Hammond through Baton Rouge to NOLA is single track and will probably be traffic saturated. CN's normal traffic BR - NO plus the IC stuff may create many delays, but might be do-able as Amtrak and CN already have the CofNO agreement.
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated March 2018

Postby Tadman » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:34 pm

Given that this is statistically something that happens every five years for a few weeks, maybe it's not really a problem worth solving unless that bridge becomes more of an issue.
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated March 2018

Postby R&DB » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:58 pm

I don't understand why CN can't / won't reroute the CofNO via Baton Rouge as they are obviously are doing with the rest their N-S traffic. Two trains a day makes a difference?
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Re: City of New Orleans truncated March 2018

Postby mtuandrew » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:30 pm

R&DB wrote:I don't understand why CN can't / won't reroute the CofNO via Baton Rouge as they are obviously are doing with the rest their N-S traffic. Two trains a day makes a difference?

I wonder if it would mess up the Amtrak scheduling more than it already is. Also, I wonder why there isn't going to be Thruway service Hammond - NOL, that seems obvious.
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