Turboliners Move

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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby liftedjeep » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:29 pm

While out railfanning in the rain this afternoon, I was told by a former Amtrak employee that the third Turboliner set which is currently in Bear, will actually be sent to join the other two sets in Jersey come the spring or summer. Apparently, it has a broken or missing windshield(?) that needs to be replaced before it too can be moved.
Not sure if this info is legit, but I wanted to pass it along in case someone else might be able to elaborate a bit further.
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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby Tadman » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:23 pm

If they're not moving the train under power (IE dragging it with geeps instead), why does the windshield have to be replaced if it's getting scrapped?
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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby Greg Moore » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:41 pm

Hazarding a guess (mostly because I want to see if i'm correct, not because I necessarily think I am): to avoid being considered a hospital train, which means being towed at a much slower speed (and possibly either get in the way of other moves, or be put on a siding overnight for a 2 night move) it has to have all "Safety equipment" operating and a windshield qualifies as that.

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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:45 pm

nope for a train to be moved as towed object only brakes have to be fully operational and trucks in good shape, windshields have nothing to do with it unless it were a lead locomotive.
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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby Noel Weaver » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:32 pm

DutchRailnut wrote:nope for a train to be moved as towed object only brakes have to be fully operational and trucks in good shape, windshields have nothing to do with it unless it were a lead locomotive.


Why would a train need a window or windshield in order to be towed to the scrap yard?
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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:08 pm

If the windshield is "bonded" into the body shell,the glass is part of the structure of the cab,if cracked to a point where any movement could
cause a collapse to the rest of the cab structure. Figure on some form of temporary "fix" to hold the glass in the windshield frame for the move
to Davis .

Case in point,most car windshields are bonded into their frames,not with rubber gaskets. That's the reason you see masking tape after
a windshield replacement,and the car cannot move for a few hours untill the bonding material "sets".
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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby Matt Johnson » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:22 am

I notice that their horns have been removed. They sounded different from other Amtrak horns - any idea what type that is?

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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby mtuandrew » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:00 am

Matt Johnson wrote:I notice that their horns have been removed. They sounded different from other Amtrak horns - any idea what type that is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgnYJ6jQuF0

According to Wikipedia, the RTGs used Nathan P1234A5 horns. No word on the RTLs, but it would stand to reason they got the same ones.
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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby Matt Johnson » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:21 am

mtuandrew wrote:According to Wikipedia, the RTGs used Nathan P1234A5 horns. No word on the RTLs, but it would stand to reason they got the same ones.


Thanks, yeah, that sounds like it!

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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby Amtrak706 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:35 am

Close. The RTLs mostly had P5As (the type on early F40s) while some had P01235s (the type on E60s).
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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby liftedjeep » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:01 am

A friend of mine put together an album of the various Turboliner shots he's taken over the years. Dating back to the different sets in action from the late 70s, to a few pics from present day in Adams Yard. A nice collection from "start to finish" if you will.

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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby DutchRailnut » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:42 am

It sure shows what bad job Stupid Steel did, it seemed they used no corrosion inhibitor and water paint.
a pain layer without damage, should never get this much corrosion.
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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby DutchRailnut » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:04 pm

for example, the 6 CDOT FL-9m's rebuild in 1993 ran in service for 14 years and have been in storage for another 10, yet their paint is still in good shape. not flaking.
the units have not been repainted at all.
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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby Matt Johnson » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:28 pm

I do remember noting during one of my trips aboard the rebuilt Turbos some hastily applied touch up paint on one of the coaches along that Acela blob window band. So yeah, I don't know if it was the best quality work.
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Re: Turboliners Move

Postby Tadman » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:55 pm

Is there a final date for having all three sets in the yards in Jersey?
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