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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby BenH » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:33 pm

Many more details of the reorg can be found on this RailwayAge link:
http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/passenger/intercity/amtrak-shakes-up-the-building-and-moves-it.html

Note in particular this curious statement, "Additionally, as part of these changes, we will simplify our titling for senior officials by adopting a three-level titling structure of Executive Vice President, Vice President and Assistant Vice President to apply to all such positions."
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby gokeefe » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:38 pm

BenH wrote:Note in particular this curious statement, "Additionally, as part of these changes, we will simplify our titling for senior officials by adopting a three-level titling structure of Executive Vice President, Vice President and Assistant Vice President to apply to all such positions."


Standardization of titles allows for clarity in terms of standing within the organization ... "All Executive Vice Presidents shall attend this meeting" etc. It avoids "hurt feelings" because "Assistant Vice President" who in the previous situation had an ambiguous title no longer gets to attend or decide certain matters. It's a very good sign and an indication that Amtrak is choosing to focus on business instead of worrying about the politics of their senior executive staff.
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:45 pm

jwhite07 wrote:Wasn't Amtrak's early-days HQ down around L'Enfant Plaza someplace?


From "The Beginning" to about 1980, 955 L'Enfant Plaza, 400 N.Capitol to about 1985, then 60 Mass, and.now who knows.

Obviously not about to hang their hats in somewhere like that former Hecht Co. (Macy's) building.
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby Ken W2KB » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:55 pm

gokeefe wrote:The Washington DC address is likely partly in order to ensure that any legal actions are heard in the federal judicial district that is limited to Washington DC. That court has extensive experience with litigation related to the federal government and as such it is highly preferable for government agencies to have their cases heard there.


Amtrak would likely want any action against it to be heard in DC, but the place where the cause of action arose is also proper venue. For example, a passenger or other plaintiff who alleges a claim against Amtrak for personal injury, etc. can being suit and be heard in the US District Court where the harm occurred.
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby Tadman » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:45 pm

ThirdRail7 wrote:I was told from multiple people (and it is now posted on another board) that Amtrak has to maintain a Washington DC address as its principal location. Apparently, this helps since Amtrak is some sort of federal entity and being centered in WAS helps it avoid certain laws.


This may be the case, but you can get around this. CN is required by Canadian law and the act that allowed it to privatise to keep the headquarters in Montreal. There is a huge office and the central nervous system of the entire railroad are in Homewood, just off Markham Yard, 30 miles south of Chicago. EHH used to work out of his estate in south Florida to boot.

Also, Fiat/Chrysler has their "headquarters" in the Netherlands for tax reasons. There is not doubt that Chairman Marchionne is working in either Auburn Hills or Turin. He was a bit famous for moving off the executive floor and down to an engineering floor.
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby AgentSkelly » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:21 am

Tadman wrote:
ThirdRail7 wrote:
Also, Fiat/Chrysler has their "headquarters" in the Netherlands for tax reasons. There is not doubt that Chairman Marchionne is working in either Auburn Hills or Turin. He was a bit famous for moving off the executive floor and down to an engineering floor.


There was a big debate about that within Chrysler; taxes wasn't so much one of the big reasons but rather he wanted neutral ground for the two companies so that there was no turf going on; he also wanted to find a differnt name than FCA; was considering Detroit Motorworks or even considering resurrecting American Motors...
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby SRich » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:49 pm

Gilbert B Norman wrote:According to Wiki, Union Station is owned by the non-profit Union Station Redevelopment Corporation, but an 84-year lease of the property is held by New York-based Ashkenazy Acquisition Corporation and managed by Chicago-based Jones Lang LaSalle. The physical plant is owned by Washington Terminal Company, which is 99.99% owned by Amtrak (some minority interest is playing "stick in the mud").

Amtrak owns [s]outright[/s] the Chicago Union Station Company, and their building has six floors of vacant office space. While there are plans to redevelop CUS with a 25 story atop the so-called Great Hall (it was built with caissons that can support such a structure; as that what was planned during 1920 until "politics got in the way"), those seem to be going slow at present. So who knows, maybe Amtrak HQ could come out here - and maybe get Washington out of their hair (well, a little bit).

Now so far as the organizational shake up goes, there's a new Sheriff in town writing a new script for the "Who's On First" skit.


Mr Gilbert,

According to wiki and Great American Stations D.C. Union Station building is owned by USDOT and Washington Terminal Company(WTC) and de station itself is owned by WTC. Amtrak owned 99,99% of WTC. And the non profit Union Station Redevelopment Corporation manage the bullding on behalf of the 2 owners of the building.
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:41 pm

Oh well Mr. Rich, one more "credibility" for Wiki.
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby R36 Combine Coach » Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:29 pm

ThirdRail7 wrote:I was told from multiple people (and it is now posted on another board) that Amtrak has to maintain a Washington DC address as its principal location. Apparently, this helps since Amtrak is some sort of federal entity and being centered in WAS helps it avoid certain laws.

Although in recent years, some federal agencies are now located outside DC limits, often in Prince George County or northern Virginia. Some independent federal boards and committees are located in various locations across the country.
Tadman wrote:[This may be the case, but you can get around this. CN is required by Canadian law and the act that allowed it to privatise to keep the headquarters in Montreal. There is a huge office and the central nervous system of the entire railroad are in Homewood, just off Markham Yard, 30 miles south of Chicago.

I see a similar analogy with Amtrak having a huge presence in Delaware. CNOC, Bear and Wilmington Shops are all located here. And Philadelphia (30 Street) is also a major operations base, where HR and revenue (ticketing/refunds) are based.

USPS has a similar structure: although the USPS HQ (with Postmaster General and Board of Governors) are at L'Enfant Plaza, Washington, DC 20560, HR/accounting/payroll is out of St. Louis, Rates/Mailing/Classification (PCSC) in New York (Church Street Federal Building) and stamp fulfillment in Kansas City.
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby Suburban Station » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:40 am

Amtrak is not a federal agency but a strange beast of private corporation wholly owned by the government. At any rate, Philadelphia is home to engineering, a good number of accountants, some HR, and various other corporate departments. Amtrak owns occupied office space in Philadelphia, Wilmington, DC(though not 60 Mass), NYC, and Chicago. They own significant unused office space in Baltimore, Harrisburg, and Chicago. Utilizing that unused space could make a lot of sense.
CNOC is bizarrely located in a flood plain in Wilmington, such operations would have made more sense in Philadelphia in a building like 30th st which was built for just such types of work.
I might move payroll/AP functions to Harrisburg, the majority of accounting, HR, and IT staff in DC to Baltimore. Chicago & Philadelphia could split Finance functions reasonably well. probably not going to happen but it would make more sense than what they did IMO.
the new organization splits operations from revenue responsibility.
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby east point » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:25 pm

Is some reservation functions in Atlanta ?
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby Tadman » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:07 pm

The oughta move some people to Detroit, It's comparatively cheap and it's on the map of owned corridor rail lines, now. If you haven't been to downtown Detroit in a few years, it's worth a visit. Totally different than 2010.
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby AgentSkelly » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:48 am

Weren't a lot of these facilities assets transferred from Penn Central and the other original railroads?
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby amtrakhogger » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:24 am

east point wrote:Is some reservation functions in Atlanta ?


FWIK, Reservations Dept. has two offices, one in Northeast Philadelphia, Pa. and
Another in Riverside, Ca.
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Re: Amtrak Corporate Organization

Postby mtuandrew » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:25 am

If Amtrak corporate is (at least largely) moving out of 60 Mass, who is moving in?
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