Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby Tadman » Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:23 am

There was a raft of them on the track at Chicago that is usually used for cars going to Beech Grove, same place I saw a raft of diners a few weeks ago. The march to storage continues. Much as you hate to see historic stuff disappear, this is a really good thing. Reliability and growth is a great thing!
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby ApproachMedium » Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:13 pm

Good riddance! i just hope the diners can hit some museums before they get taken apart. The bags were filthy inside and out.
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby BandA » Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:30 am

I was in a very nice early 18th century house that the town was going to move and preserve. The equally historic, but less sexy barn behind it was going to be torn down.

Are any of these baggage cars unique or interesting? Have innovative features?
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby John_Perkowski » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:46 am

I seriously doubt it. If we were talking one of the cars from the first Super Chief, or from the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED, that'd be one thing.

Are not most Heritage baggage cars now re-furbs from standard Budd 44 seat coaches? Nothing extraordinary about them.
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby ApproachMedium » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:01 pm

There is one or two at least totally smoothside stainless bags that i think came from the super chief. Those might be worth saving. The rest were generic budd stainless baggage cars or old 44 seat coaches turned to baggage cars (1700 series). The 1700s were unique but are worthless as they are pretty much destroyed from their use as baggage cars.
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:08 pm

They live!!

Observed today a former SP Coach/conversion H-Bagg in consist of #6 (29).

To paraphrase Hamlet. "Something's rotten with the V-Bags", for with the additional 15 of such, they cannot keep the existing consists protected. Amtrak had best not accept any more V-Cars, until I would fear some underlying issues are addressed.
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby Tadman » Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:39 am

One got bumped pretty hard last week. I saw it deadheading to Chicago, probably then to Beech Grove. I would assume it is repairable as the damage was to the side above the belt rail, where the windows would be. But it got bumped good, no idea how this happened.
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby StLouSteve » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:17 pm

Saw one parked up against the bumping block in Denver last week, assume it might be used as a storage shed,
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby John_Perkowski » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:27 pm

So this Budd built true baggage, marked as a buffer car, was on the westbound River Runner into KC Union Station today, along with a Budd built 10-6 and two V-II baggage cars...
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby ApproachMedium » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:37 pm

Strange. It almost looks like one of the heritage train museum cars but its not.
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby mtuandrew » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:02 pm

Could you get a car number on the 10-6, Colonel? There are a pair or three Heritage cars floating around that were painted in Phase IVb, not Amtrak-owned but used to represent them in a commercial or movie or some such. I remember them being associated with the MILW 261 group either formally or informally. When I looked through them at Amtrak MSP Midway Station maybe 5 years ago (National Train Day), they were a standard 10-6 and 44-seat coach (maybe a diner or bag too, I don't recall) respectively that probably hadn't seen Amtrak service since the Heritage car purge if not earlier, and were not set up with modern Corridor equipment.
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby John_Perkowski » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:47 pm

Looking at the photos I took, the baggage car is a "Buffer Car" #1040.

Nothing on the 10-6.
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby ApproachMedium » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:30 am

That 10-6 was stored in Ivy City for a while I think. Ill keep an eye for it on 30 track in WAS and see if it shows up again. It was there for a bit too.
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby Alcochaser » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:31 am

John_Perkowski wrote:Looking at the photos I took, the baggage car is a "Buffer Car" #1040.

Nothing on the 10-6.


Should be 10404

It's got rubber tubes on both ends to be able to couple up to a Superliner, Surfline, or Heritage high level and not damage anything. The inside is fitted for moving company materials including wheel sets.

It's used when transporting cars to the shop on the Cardinal. Not sure why it's in Kansas City.
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Re: Heritage Baggage Car: Status and Disposition

Postby Alcochaser » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:51 am

The other car the "10-6" should be 10405 the other "buffer" car, former 2509 converted crew dorm.
Interior also used to move company materials.

What the heck are both of those cars doing in Kansas City?

2505 is the car stored at Ivy City
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