Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inland

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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby gregorygrice » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:37 pm

Arlington wrote:What's the difference between a quiet zone (which I think of as a place that has no horns at all), and a grade crossing that has a wayside horn, and a grade crossing where the train sounds its horn?

I live near a crossing that was long grandfathered but when that waiver expired and the trains had the sound all horns it was unbearable, and my city immediately spent something like a million dollars to restore the peace.


All current Quiet Zone crossings that aren't grandfathered in have to have wayside horns. The wayside horn constantly blows a crossing sequence on loop the whole time the gates are down. Compare that to a normal crossing where a train just blows one crossing sequence.

In the case of Meriden the people there were getting annoyed with the constant sounding of the wayside horn and opted to just have them turned off.


In my opinion quiet zones crossings are useless and dangerous. The horn is on the train for a reason.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby Ridgefielder » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:15 pm

TomNelligan wrote:
"It's intolerable at this point," Lareau said from his backyard overlooking railroad tracks. "Trains are going constantly. 24 hours a day."


Sounds like the poor guy bought a house and then they suddenly constructed a brand-new railroad next to it. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who should know what they're getting when they decide to live next to tracks. And I write as one who lives a couple hundred feet from a very active commuter rail line.

This guy lives under the landing pattern for Bradley International. Parsons Road is 3 1/2 miles from the runway.

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He's got B737's coming over <1,000' off the deck but his problem is the train horn?
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby gregorygrice » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:54 pm

Don't forget the odors from the sewage treatment plant next door too!
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby Traingeek3629 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:49 pm

I have no sympathy for that guy whatsoever. Millions of people live less than 100 yards from an active railroad , and yet the area around only HIS house deserves a quiet spot? That is absurd. If you don't like train horns, don't live 50 feet from a railroad.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby GirlOnTheTrain » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:50 pm

He acts like it was an abandoned line prior to Hartford line service...
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby asull85 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:24 pm

I've never enjoyed blowing the horn for Bridge Lane and Parsons Road more than I do now. :-D
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby jamoldover » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:21 pm

gregorygrice wrote:
Arlington wrote:What's the difference between a quiet zone (which I think of as a place that has no horns at all), and a grade crossing that has a wayside horn, and a grade crossing where the train sounds its horn?

I live near a crossing that was long grandfathered but when that waiver expired and the trains had the sound all horns it was unbearable, and my city immediately spent something like a million dollars to restore the peace.


All current Quiet Zone crossings that aren't grandfathered in have to have wayside horns. The wayside horn constantly blows a crossing sequence on loop the whole time the gates are down. Compare that to a normal crossing where a train just blows one crossing sequence.

In the case of Meriden the people there were getting annoyed with the constant sounding of the wayside horn and opted to just have them turned off.


In my opinion quiet zones crossings are useless and dangerous. The horn is on the train for a reason.


A slight correction - the wayside horn is a non-quiet zone way for a municipality to get some reduction in the sound, since the horn is aimed at the roadway, and therefore isn't required to be as loud. A quiet zone is exactly that - no horns at all, but in exchange, the crossing has to have 4-quadrant gates and barricades to prevent traffic from using the wrong side of the road to get around the gates (and maybe some other things, too).
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby Traingeek3629 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:11 pm

You are an engineer asull85?
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby lordsigma12345 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:06 pm

ACSES is operable on the Springfield Line as of this morning.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby Arlington » Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:56 pm

What are the practical benefits of ACSES here (higher speeds?)
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby lordsigma12345 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:21 pm

None that I know of but this corridor has enough traffic now where PTC is mandatory.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line Shuttle/Regional/Greenfield/Inla

Postby DutchRailnut » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:28 pm

PTC (ACSES) has little to do with speed, the track class does. PTC is required on any track were a passenger train can encounter other traffic or were hazmat is being transported.
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