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Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby li7039 » Sun May 04, 2014 9:55 pm

Taking train 42/43 Thursday and Saturday from NYP to PGH. Any idea what type of Business Class coaches are used on this train? Are they the 2x2 NEC style ones or the 2x1 Empire corridor style ones?
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby ThirdRail7 » Sun May 04, 2014 9:58 pm

li7039 wrote:Taking train 42/43 Thursday and Saturday from NYP to PGH. Any idea what type of Business Class coaches are used on this train? Are they the 2x2 NEC style ones or the 2x1 Empire corridor style ones?


2x2 NEC style.
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby li7039 » Sun May 04, 2014 10:09 pm

Thanks
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby Matt Johnson » Sun May 04, 2014 10:42 pm

That's a fairly recent change. It was the more desirable 2-1 leather seat half-cafe when I took it a few years ago. Now I would question whether it's worth it at all, as coach class uses Amfleet II's on that route, which have the same seat pitch as the business class Amfleet I's. I'd personally take the larger windows of the Amfleet II and forego the free coffee/soft drinks.
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby Greg Moore » Mon May 05, 2014 5:28 am

Matt Johnson wrote:That's a fairly recent change. It was the more desirable 2-1 leather seat half-cafe when I took it a few years ago. Now I would question whether it's worth it at all, as coach class uses Amfleet II's on that route, which have the same seat pitch as the business class Amfleet I's. I'd personally take the larger windows of the Amfleet II and forego the free coffee/soft drinks.


Yeah, one of my gripes with 2-2 business seating is basically "what's the point?"
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Mon May 05, 2014 7:35 am

To have a few less of your 'closest and dearest friends' around you is worth whatever the modest surcharge may be.

Of course, by analogy, an airline could take one row of seats on an all-coach configured aircraft, label the macassars 'First Class', treble the fare, and they would still fill 'em up'.
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby R30A » Mon May 05, 2014 11:41 am

Well, the problem with Mr. Norman's analogy is that it would not be that bad if they did what he said.
What 42/43 (and 89/90) have is a downgrade in accommodations for Business class. The A2s used as coaches have slightly more legroom, as well as larger windows and leg rests, which the A1 Business class cars don't have.
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby lirr42 » Mon May 05, 2014 5:19 pm

It's the Pennsylvanian's "dirty little secret"—the accommodations, at least in terms of seating, are better in coach then they are in business class, but they still charge more!
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby ThirdRail7 » Tue May 06, 2014 8:20 am

lirr42 wrote:It's the Pennsylvanian's "dirty little secret"—the accommodations, at least in terms of seating, are better in coach then they are in business class, but they still charge more!


People that want the WIFI and don't want to spend the entire trip in the café car appreciate it.
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby R30A » Tue May 06, 2014 10:29 am

Wifi on the Pennsylvanian???

You don't get much signal in western PA :)
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby Suburban Station » Tue May 06, 2014 2:06 pm

it's a mixed consist. wifi is in one Am I, the cafe, and the business class car. there are also two Am II coaches with no wifi but better legroom and windows.
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Re: Business Class on trains 42/42

Postby jp1822 » Tue May 06, 2014 11:24 pm

Business class not worth it on 42/43 and the wifi is spotty at best on any Amtrak train for that matter.
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