Viewliner II Delivery/Production

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby mtuandrew » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:42 pm

scoostraw wrote:Is it me? Or do those 2 cars not look "straight"?

It almost looks like they have a sag in the rooflines.

Yeah, I see it too - looks like a subtle bulge in the kitchen end. When I zoom in on the area, the picture gets pixelated on my phone, so can anyone else inspect and comment on what it is?
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby ApproachMedium » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:50 pm

I think the kitchen end goes up a little bit?
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby scoostraw » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:51 pm

I've wondered since the beginning just how well these CAF cars were going to be built.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby ApproachMedium » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:54 pm

They are actually made very well. My initial review of the baggage cars seems to be still holding up after all of this service, they are just getting filthy fast which has nothing to do with the design.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:38 pm

I seriously believe that hold up on Dinners is not CAF but US health inspection related. it is extremely tough to get a car like that initially approved and pass inspections once a year.
it also pretty much guaranteed the end of old heritage diners .
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby mtuandrew » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:49 pm

ApproachMedium wrote:They are actually made very well. My initial review of the baggage cars seems to be still holding up after all of this service, they are just getting filthy fast which has nothing to do with the design.

At this rate and price, they should be made from adamantium and Roombas! Glad they are holding up.

Kind of looks like they have a double thickness of roofing at the kitchen end, up to the central vent.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby Matt Johnson » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:49 pm

ApproachMedium wrote:I think the kitchen end goes up a little bit?


I noticed that too. It also looks like maybe there's a more shiny looking area in the center of the roof, like they spliced in some new sheetmetal or something. I've seen that type of thing on other Amtrak cars, but usually as a result of wreck repairs.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby Arlington » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:53 pm

Are we thinking that the diner's shape has something to do with the mods that delayed things and were needed before acceptance?
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby scoostraw » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:02 pm

That's what I was thinking.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby Greg Moore » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:26 pm

I suspect folks are overreacting to a single photo. I haven't seen this looking at other photos.

As for quality of their construction, I suspect they'll do quite well. It seems Amtrak has made not to accept anything that wasn't pretty dang good.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby ApproachMedium » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:56 pm

LOL amtrak accepted the baggage cars with 25 things wrong with them, because they needed them in service oh so bad. The initial two major defects had to be repaired before they went in but after that the rest of the stuff was done as they could.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby Greg Moore » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:49 pm

Fair point, but as I recall, they also put off acceptance as long as they could and still returned Albany after their initial delivery.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:38 pm

Have not seen a pic of this"hump",could be a design mod to allow proper cleaning of the venting system for grease from the grill/ovens on
a regular basis,this is part of the inspection done by the Health Dept.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby andrewjw » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:34 pm

Gilbert B Norman wrote:It appears that Jackson and Lansing are "on the way":

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/640996/#remarks

When accepted, there will be twelve of 'em on the property. That means there will be adequate protection for 19-20 and 97-98, and that the "rare sighting" will be an H-D.

Theoretically, along with 8400, Amtrak could restore full service to 48-49 now, but they could easily "come up naked" for protection at the outlying points of CHI and NOL, as well as having to play "Rob Peter to Pay Paul" at SSY. Likely two more need be delivered before 48-49 can be in play. Let us not forget that Diners have a higher E-Cleaning cycle than other cars, and if one of our multipeded friends is caught "deadheading", out comes the car and "under the tent" it goes for a fumigation.


Note sure if this would be considered a surprise, but 19 today (18) has an H-diner.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Postby scoostraw » Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:06 pm

Backshophoss wrote:Have not seen a pic of this"hump"


http://www.railpictures.net/photo/640996/#remarks
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