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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby lordsigma12345 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:08 pm

I had heard they were going to be working on the ticketing space soon.. Amtrak must be planning to move into the Union Station building even though the platform isn't done. Interesting as they were originally saying they weren't going to move the ticketing and passenger waiting in until the platform is ready, however I'm sure the city spent a lot of money on the LCD displays for the trains so I'm sure they'd like to be able to turn those on and get the rail passengers into the new concourse. They had the screens on to show off on the first weekend the station opened but then they were shut off immediately afterward. Amtrak probably did not want them on until they began making the arrival and departure PA announcements within the new waiting area to avoid confusing passengers as to where they should be waiting.
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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby lordsigma12345 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:01 pm

Finally an update on the new high level platform at Springfield. Also sounds like Amtrak will be moving into Union Station shortly. Note that MassDOT has 10 million budgeted for it so will be interesting to see how much it comes out to.

http://www.masslive.com/business-news/i ... _work.html
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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby nephersir7 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:51 am

Jehochman wrote:
Trains in the Valley wrote:June 21, 2017 | The House of Commons of Canada adoped Bill C-23, “Preclearance Act, 2016″. The bill has been sent to the Senate of Canada, where it will sit until the Senate returns to session on September 19, 2017.


If you remember, in December 2016 the US Congress passed a law authorizing pre-clearance in Montreal for rail travel. Once Canada passes their matching law, the facility can be built and eventually the Vermonter becomes the Montrealer. Terminating the train in a major city would make increased service frequency more economical.


The Canadian law has finally passed.

http://www.vermontbiz.com/news/2017/dec ... vel-canada
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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby Woody » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:39 pm

Quite a nice present for Amtrak for the holidays.

Thanks for this update, and welcome to railroad.net with your first post!
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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby Palmer5RR » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:20 pm

The link below gives an update in the news about Restored Montreal Service. It gives a some possible start year.
http://www.graydc.com/content/news/Rest ... 15253.html
“I would think no later than 2020,” said Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)"
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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby BandA » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:38 am

Such a sense of urgency :wink:
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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby gokeefe » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:58 am

It's 2018 right now. I think the Senator was being very careful in his comments. They have been shepherding this project all along. I would expect that to continue.
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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby Palmer5RR » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:58 am

The article says;
"Track improvements are still needed in Canada, security questions remain, and it’s not clear yet who will pay for new facilities and staff."
I would think to accomplish just these 3 items would take until well into 2020 or much more time.
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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby Allouette » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:29 pm

Palmer5RR wrote:"Track improvements are still needed in Canada, security questions remain, and it’s not clear yet who will pay for new facilities and staff."
I would think to accomplish just these 3 items would take until well into 2020 or much more time.


Well, not so much. While improvements are needed to the Cantic Sub, it's currently used by the Adirondack. The few miles between Cantic and East Alburgh are all low-speed anyway due to the Missisquoi Bay bridge. South of the border has already been upgraded to track suitable for 50 MPH MAS. Any pre-clearance facility would also be shared with the Adirondack, and the same security questions would apply. New York's congressional delegation is also pushing getting this done.

It was easier when the Adirondack and Montrealer ran on opposite schedules between 1974 and 1987. Canadian and US Customs folks would usually be able to work both trains with a van returning them to their starting points.
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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby lordsigma12345 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:15 pm

I was looking at the ridership statistics on the Vermonter on Amtrak's performance reports and on the reports on www.narprail.org. Am I correct that passenger trips are only credited to the Vermonter service if they begin and/or end on the state-supported part of the route (IE trips that begin or end at stops north of New Haven?) It would appear from the way the statistics read, that is the case. Assumingly in this case trips on the Vermonter where both end points are on the NEC are considered Northeast Regional trips.
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Re: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Li

Postby gokeefe » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:47 am

I believe that is correct. Might even be from SPG onwards to SAB as opposed to NHV-SAB.
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