Alco's in need of Preservation

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby Allen Hazen » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:56 pm

In post #79139 at LocoNotes, David Garon said that 2338 was derelict (cannibalized for parts, but externally good enough for static display) at MacMillan Yard in Toronto.
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby Alcoman » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:32 pm

Allen Hazen wrote:In post #79139 at LocoNotes, David Garon said that 2338 was derelict (cannibalized for parts, but externally good enough for static display) at MacMillan Yard in Toronto.
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From Canadian Railroad Observation on line magazine:
CRO learned yesterday there currently are no immediate plans to retire (from SUS) or dispose of their CN M636 at the Toronto shop. It was even fired up a few times last year and is considered an Emergency Generator for the yard. The bad news is many parts have been removed to keep the CN and BCOL DASH8 40CM fleet r...u...nning. As well parts heve been removed from her trucks and temporarily patched with welded brackets. Therefore she cannot be moved very far outside of the Diesel Shop area It was moved around recently though and started up wheeled outside and then back inside ... not sure why. They are taking things off it, the Bell headlights and ditchlights are gone. (If you want to get involved in preservation Contact the CRHA)
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby traingeek8223 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:48 am

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby thebigham » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:05 pm

^Thanks!
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby MEC407 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:14 pm

If anyone wants to preserve a Norfolk & Western high-nose RS11, now is the time to act:

http://railswap.org/cb/cl/classifieds.c ... =retrieval
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby thebigham » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:25 pm

Bump for John
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby thebigham » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:27 pm

From the Scrapped Alcos thread:

I know we have been discussing ALCO's that HAVE BEEN scrapped, however there is no sense beating a dead horse. The focus should be ALCOS that need to be saved from scrapping. There is a couple of guidelines that one should keep in mind.
1) Not all ALCO's can be or should be saved. To think otherwise is just dreaming.
2) Think in terms of : "What makes this ALCO special" Why it should be saved. Is it the first of this model? The last of this model? The last model in existence? Other historical significance.
3) Where are you going to find the $$$$$ to save this ALCO? Ya know, in this bad economy, not everyone can spare a dime.
4) How much is it going to cost to buy this locomotive? How much will it cost to, move it and where are you going to put it? How are you going to preserve it from weather? Who is going to do the work to preserve it? What will this restoration require ? These are things one needs to consider when saving a locomotive.

Many groups do not have the deep pockets required to do a lot of Preservation either so there is no guarantee that a group can or will help.

Now, getting back to ALCO's that need to be saved: Here is a starter list.
1) LS&I RSD-12 LAST RSD12 built 1963
2) DL&W HH660 # 603 Currently owned by a scrap metal dealer in Indiana.Former Relco unit. Last DL&W ALCO.
3) RPPX ALCO C636 # 636-2 located in Cohocton, NY One of ONLY 2 ALCO DEMO units left. The other one is spoken for.
4) ADIRONDACK # 25 RSC-2 in danger of being scrapped. One of 2 in the U.S. left.
5) LAL C424 # 420 - stored and used as parts supply. Last PENNSY C424 plus its a phase one model.
6) Former Rock Island C415 # 421- sitting abandoned on isolated piece of track in Nebraska. One of ONLY 2 RI C415's left.

This is only a shortlist. I am sure there are others.
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby thebigham » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:28 pm

^Where is #1 at?
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby Alcoman » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:55 pm

In Michigan, near Eagle Mills.
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby scottychaos » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:43 am

An RS3 near Buffalo NY was planned to go on display at the Erie County fairgrounds..
looks like plans have changed:

thebigham wrote:According to Railpace, RS3 #28 is not going to the Erie County Fairgrounds.
She will be parted out by the BSOR.


quote from: viewtopic.php?f=128&t=64231&start=45

photo: http://www.railfan.net/railpix/submit/s ... RS3-28.jpg

built 1951
Alco c/n 80531
currently BSOR 28
ex Adirondack 28
nee D&H 4129

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby Alcoman » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:49 am

MEC407 wrote:Word on the street (via LocoNotes) is that the last M636 built, CN 2338, is at risk of being scrapped. Anyone want to try and save a big MLW?


No longer in danger. It has been purchased by the WNY&P. It is in MacMillian Yard,Toronto waiting to been sent down to the WNYP.
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby jjsatorm » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:40 pm

I'd throw in LO604, the HH660 in Mankato, MN, owned by a scrap yard, and recently displaced by an EMD, as a prime preservation candidate. This HH was originally EJ&E, and is either operable or close to it.

Also, the ex RI C415 listed in the scrapped Alcos thread is actually on the outskirts of Kansas City.

http://jjs_fnw.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... ?id=955127

Major parts intact, but vandalized and most copper & aluminum gone.
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby scottychaos » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:38 pm

Three Alco RS1's on the Tioga Central, Wellsboro, PA,
are rumored to be in danger of scrapping:

http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 161200601a

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/r ... ?2,3119970

The three locos are:

Alco RS1, built 1945
Originally NYSW (Susquehanna) No. 240
to Tioga Central 240
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/ ... llsize.jpg

Alco RS1, built 1945
Originally Washington Terminal No. 47.
to Amtrak 47
to Tioga Central 47
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/ ... llsize.jpg

Alco RS1, built 1950
Originally Washington Terminal No. 62.
to Amtrak 62
to Tioga Central 62
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/ ... llsize.jpg

All three OOS in Wellsboro, PA.

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby thebigham » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:04 pm

^Thanks, Scot! I posted the info on 2 other Alco boards.
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby thebigham » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:37 am

There are no plans to scrap the TC Alcos according to John Mech.
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