Alco's in need of Preservation

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby kalvingp30fan » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:09 am

I know its already technecly preserved but they havent done anything on it for over a year and it looks really bad

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby pablo » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:24 pm

It's in process, and the other one gets first dibs.

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby EDM5970 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:04 pm

D&H 16 belongs to the Smithsonian. "NKP 190" is a privately owned unit, being restored with private funds. Once the trucks were placed under 16, the ball was in the Smithsonians court; that was the business arrangement with the 190's owner. Not a matter of "the other one gets first dibs" at all-
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby pablo » Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:41 am

Sure it is. Doyle has his hands full with the NKP unit, since that's his baby, and he's done a tremendous amount of work with it. I have a very hard time thinking that if the Smithsonian tomorrow showed up with a couple of trucks and what not, that Doyle would drop everything with the much-closer-to-completed NKP PA and have at it with the shell.

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby RS-3 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:45 am

I'd say the 16 is already preserved. It just need restoring.

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby Alcoman » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:24 pm

This poor Alco S-1 may be in line for preservation in the near future. See Photo.
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby airman00 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:34 pm

Alcoman wrote:This poor Alco S-1 may be in line for preservation in the near future. See Photo.
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When you say preservation, do you mean to operating condition, (assuming it doesn't run), or just a cosmetic restoration?
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby Alcoman » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:58 pm

Preservation could be either or both.
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby mxdata » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:42 am

And it doesn't necessarily have to be either of those choices. "Pretty and perfect" is the preference of railfans, whose primary interest is having the equipment available to be photographed, and many of whom are notorious as a group for not contributing effort or monetary support to museums. Things that are under restoration or even in parts are far more interesting to the general public, who come to the railroad museum for a look at things they cannot see so close-up in their normal access to railroads. And the general public includes entire families, and they spend a lot more money at the museum than most of the railfans ever will, and won't be nearly as fussy about all the small details of the exhibits.

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby tgibson » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:41 pm

All of the Alcos in the Santa Fe Collection currently rotting away and being stripped, out behind the California RR Museum in Sacramento. They were pristine before they came to Sacto...

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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby tj48 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:30 pm

traingeek8223 wrote:Just for fun, let's start a topic about Alco's that YOU think need preservation. No right or wrong answers here. Just opinions. I'll start the ball rolling with some obvious ones:

NYC S1 #100
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NYC T3a 278
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This has probably been addressed already but who owns these 2 unique units?
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby Alcoman » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:55 pm

Those are owned by Mohawk & Hudson Chapter NRHS.
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby MEC407 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:56 pm

Word on the street (via LocoNotes) is that the last M636 built, CN 2338, is at risk of being scrapped. Anyone want to try and save a big MLW?
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby thebigham » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:06 pm

^Where is it at?
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Re: Alco's in need of Preservation

Postby MEC407 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:23 pm

I can't remember, and unfortunately my Yahoo account is messed up and won't let me access the LocoNotes archives. Sorry. :( If anyone here is a LocoNotes member, maybe they could check the archives and find out where the unit currently resides.
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