Scrapped Alcos

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Re: Scrapped Alcos

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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby thebigham » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:22 am

"High Green" newsletter of the Chesapeake Railway Association:

Cut Up for Scrap: Delaware Coast Line 23, an Alco RS1,
was reportedly scrapped in Georgetown, DE, on July 10.
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby Alcoman » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:55 pm

Any usable parts have been saved for use in another RS-1 by a private party.
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby thebigham » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:10 am

^Great news. Thanks!
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby thebigham » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:35 pm

From pics posted on Facebook:

RS-1 #62 is being scrapped along with exNYS&W RS-1 #240 at Wellsboro, PA
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby thebigham » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:18 pm

RUMORS:

Heard rumor today that the two C636s in Cohocton are being scrapped as we speak and that two of the ex GBW C424s in Lakeville are next (sold to the same scrapper). Can anybody confirm?
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby thebigham » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:53 am

^The rumors were true.

Scrapped at Cohocton:

Alco C636 3660
Alco C636 3662

Scrapped at Lakeville:

Alco C424m 320
Alco C424m 321

Also scrapped last fall by the Wellsboro & Corning:

Alco RS-1 47
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby scottychaos » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:30 am

Very sad news! :(

thebigham wrote:
Also scrapped last fall by the Wellsboro & Corning:

Alco RS-1 47


Three Alco RS1's were scrapped in Wellsboro PA in August/September 2014:

Alco RS1, built 1945
Originally NYSW (Susquehanna) No. 240
to Tioga Central 240
http://s165.photobucket.com/user/scotty ... e.jpg.html

Alco RS1, built 1945
Originally Washington Terminal No. 47.
to Amtrak 47
to Tioga Central 47
http://s165.photobucket.com/user/scotty ... e.jpg.html

Alco RS1, built 1950
Originally Washington Terminal No. 62.
to Amtrak 62
to Tioga Central 62
http://s165.photobucket.com/user/scotty ... e.jpg.html

There were Five Alcos on the Tioga Central in Wellsboro PA from 1994 to 2014.
now there are none.
the three RS1's, listed above, were salvaged for usable parts, and the rest scrapped..the other two locomotives were sold and moved:

Alco S2, TIOC 14.
Originally Buffalo Creek No. 46.
Sold to the Livonia Avon and Lakeville, who plans to return the unit to service.

Alco RS3m, TIOC 506.
Originally D&H RS3 4112.
Rebuilt by the D&H into a RS3m in 1975, was the D&H Bicentennial unit.
Sold to the Livonia Avon and Lakeville, who plans to return the unit to service.
Moved to Olean NY in October 2014.
Still wearing her D&H Bicentennial paintscheme as of January 2015, but will likely be repainted.

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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby thebigham » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:35 pm

Another one gone this past week:

RLCX S-2 1063 at Nidera Grain in Milwaukee, WI:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/solo-two/ ... ool-alcos/

Cab gone:

http://www.railpictures.net/images/d2/0 ... 816918.jpg
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby Allen Hazen » Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:42 pm

Do you know the history of the late, lamented, RLCX 1063? The photo of it when it still had a cab shows it as having extensions of the cab roof to cover (at least) the rear walkway. This reminds me of some switchers owned by industrial users who wanted to protect the locomotive and/or its crew from stuff falling down: locomotives used in quarries, for example.
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby thebigham » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:21 pm

David Monte Verde said:

M420TR was canabilized by ARPS and recently purchased for remaining parts by GVT RAIL, and will be picked clean and scrapped at Utica, being only the 2nd ALCO joining RS11 3603 X-CV as the only Alcos GVT has scrapped.
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby NorthWest » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:28 pm

Allen Hazen wrote:Do you know the history of the late, lamented, RLCX 1063? The photo of it when it still had a cab shows it as having extensions of the cab roof to cover (at least) the rear walkway. This reminds me of some switchers owned by industrial users who wanted to protect the locomotive and/or its crew from stuff falling down: locomotives used in quarries, for example.


It appears to have been built 1/48 for McKneesport Connecting (which I think was a steel mill road) which added the cab overhang.
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby scottychaos » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:13 pm

scottychaos wrote:
Mr.S wrote:What happened to the EX -D.& H. G.& W. that were rebuilt?


I would like to know that too!
information has been lacking on them..here are their details:

Two Alco C424m units:

nee EL 2405 - built 1963
3358-05
to CR 2479 - 1976
to D&H C424m 462 (rebuilt Hornell, 1980)
to G&W 62 in 1985
to Guilford 62
to Minnesota Commercial #62 in 1992
currently at National Railway Equipment. (2005)

nee EL 2408 - built 1963
3358-08
to CR 2482 - 1976
to D&H C424m 463 (rebuilt Hornell, 1980)
to G&W 63 in 1985
to Guilford 63
to Minnesota Commercial #63 in 1992
currently at National Railway Equipment. (2005)

"Ex-Minnesota Commercial C424M’s 62 & 63(Ex- D&H 462 & 463, G&W 62 & 63, nee-EL 2405 & 2408) is reported as stored at National Railway Equipment. Future doesn’t look bright for these Alcos, probably will be stripped for parts."
-John Komanesky (2005)


Source for above info: http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/Scotty ... Wpage.html

thanks,
Scot


It's now been 12 years since 2005 when these two C424's were reported to be stored at NRE. Their fate remains unknown.

When locomotives go this long without being seen by anyone, the usual reason is: no one has seen them because they have ceased to exist, :( But ive never seen it confirmed one way or another..its still possible, if less likely, that they are wasting away somewhere.

Any one have any recent insights, or recent aerial photos of the NRE facility?

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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby pablo » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:14 am

Where is it? Might be worth a road trip if someone was so inclined.... :-D
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Re: Scrapped Alcos

Postby MEC407 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:02 am

Or a virtual drone sighting via Google Earth / Google Maps. Just need a street address. Most of their satellite imagery is pretty recent, e.g. captured within the past 1-3 years.
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