A visit to NKP 190

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A visit to NKP 190

Postby Allen Hazen » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:22 am

A week ago (Saturday, 29 August 2015, to be exact) i was in Portland, Oregon, and visited the Oregon Rail Heritage Center (*), where one of the artifacts on exhibit was Doyle McCormack's (ex-FCdelP, ex-D&H, ex-ATSF) Alco PA-1, now painted as NYC&StL 190. (I've touched it!)

Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!

Restoration is not quite finished. Externally, the grills along the upper edge of the carbody sides are still to be installed. According to a docent, the traction motors have been tested (and work) and the diesel engine and generator have been tested (and work), but the cabling connecting them hasn't been done yet: he thought it would be operable next year.

Elsewhere on this forum there is a string entitled "PA-1 traction motors": for the sort of people who found IT interesting I here report what I could glean in a short visit.

(1) The descriptive plaque in front of it said the engine and control system were from the M-420 donor. (So there is a 12-251 engine, as there was after it was rebuilt for D&H. And I assume the traction generator is the one -- a (apparently Canada-only) GE model (GTA-17 I think: similar to a GTA-11 but smaller for lower power applications) -- from the M-420.

(2) The trucks are, as widely reported, the FM version of the outside drop equalizer truck. The docent thought they had been made in Canada (note that CN had some 5-axle passenger C-liners, so there WERE some trucks of this sort used on Canadian-built locomotives): two of the "hub-caps" covering the axle ends (first and last on the left side of the unit) have "Made in Canada" embossed on them. (Four -- the ones on the right side of the powered axles -- have GE axle-generators and no room for embossing. The other six just say SKF.) On the other hand, the truck frames have the General Steel Castings G-in-a-shield emblem, so I think they were actually U.S.-built (it has been reported in the press that they are from ex-PRR "Erie Built" units used as mobile rail welding plants), but must have had bearing work done in Canada.

(3) According to the docent, the trucks had traction motors in them when McCormack bought them, and these are the traction motors currently installed! (I can imagine that it would be handy for a mobile rail-welding unit, used to weld rail joints out on the line, to be able to move itself under its own power. Does anyone know how these units were actually used in their later days?) It's possible that the PRR or a later owner replaced the original traction motors with a more common variety, but it is also possible that they are the original GE 746 motors from the Erie-built!!! (Ironically, though some Santa Fe PA-1 were apparently delivered with 746 motors, this unit, 62L on the Santa Fe, was part of a later (1948) order with 752 motors. So this could end up being the only recorded replacement of 752 with 746 motors under a PA-1.)

(*) A very nice small railroad museum: three steam and two diesel locomotives on display, all but one INDOORS, along with a caboose and about three passenger cars. Admission free, open in afternoons Thursday-Sunday. Largely volunteers, docents anxious to answer questions.
It's near OMSI (Oregon Museum of Science and Industry) and the place where a preserved submarine is moored. Located between an active U.P. line and a shortline whose proprietor -- at least on summer Saturdays -- runs excursions from the museum, using a Canadian-built EMD light roadswitcher. Can be reached by Portland Streetcar, making it one of those rare rail museums that can actually be reached by rail!
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Re: A visit to NKP 190

Postby NorthWest » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:30 pm

Indeed, a beautiful locomotive and a very well done restoration. The only thing that bugs me is an EMD MU cover on the rear wall...
Other locomotives include SP&S 700, SP 4449, and OR&N 197 (beautiful example of early 20th century steam power). Well worth a visit.
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Re: A visit to NKP 190

Postby Allen Hazen » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:04 pm

Well worth a visit, as you say: particularly given its easy accessibility from downtown Portland.
For the curious, SP&S 700 and SP 4449 are 4-8-4, and OR&N 197 is a 4-6-2. All three are currently inside the building with the PA… well, the engine of 4449 is inside (it is undergoing work, and on the day I visited the smokebox front was open), but the tender has been detached and is outside. The second diesel locomotive, parked outside, is an ex-Utah Railway RSD-5 belonging to Doyle McCormick, painted in Nickel Plate black with yellow stripes. The caboose, also privately owned, is UP, and the passenger cars are NP and GN.
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Re: A visit to NKP 190

Postby tgibson » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:26 am

Thanks for the report; glad to hear the restoration is continuing. Any news on the unit down in Texas?
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Re: A visit to NKP 190

Postby mowingman » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:22 pm

No action whatsoever on the unit here in Texas. I can not see it being restored in our lifetime, unless some corporation steps up with a big funding grant.
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Re: A visit to NKP 190

Postby tgibson » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:56 am

Too bad. I hoped the Smithsonian or other such org would do a great job on it...
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Re: A visit to NKP 190

Postby mtuandrew » Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:30 pm

mowingman wrote:No action whatsoever on the unit here in Texas. I can not see it being restored in our lifetime, unless some corporation steps up with a big funding grant.
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tgibson wrote:Too bad. I hoped the Smithsonian or other such org would do a great job on it...

The Museum of the American Railroad hasn't even built a building yet, so the PA isn't highest on its list. Besides, its carbody is really badly warped to the point that there is hardly a right angle to be found. It'll get done eventually, at least cosmetically.
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Re: A visit to NKP 190

Postby DutchRailnut » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:00 pm

a lot of pictures and info can be found on : http://www.nkp190.com/
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