Active ALCO RS3s?

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Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby deandremouse » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:53 pm

I was honestly curious, other than Delaware Lackawanna's RS3s, how many ALCo RS3s/RS3Ms are in active freight service (not museum-tourist/passenger) in the US as of now? was just wondering
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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby scottychaos » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:49 am

RS3M in Wellsboro PA was recently sold,
The former D&H 506, she was a "tourist hauler" on the Tioga Central for the past few decades,
but was just purchased by the Livonoa Avon & Lakeville, and will be put back to work as a freight hauler.
I think she qualifies for this list.

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab13 ... C08473.jpg

still wearing her 1976 D&H bicentennial paint.

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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby scottychaos » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:13 pm

Two on the Battenkill, 605 and 4116. originally L&HR AND D&H respectively.

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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby scottychaos » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:16 pm

Three on the Maryland & Delaware, MDDE 1201, 1202, and 1203.
all three originally DL&W, then to EL to Conrail to MDDE.

http://www.delmarvarails.com/MDDECentre ... neyard.jpg

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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby sallenparks » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:51 pm

EX. D&H 4085 on NY&GL if still running.
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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby deandremouse » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:24 am

So That Would Be:

BKRR 605, 4116
DL 4068, 4103, 4118
LAL 506
MDDE 1201, 1202, 1203
//NYGL 935 (Albeit, looks like this unit hasn't moved in some time)

Is CNJ 1554 a museum piece or still on active duty on the Delaware Lackawanna?

Batten Kill units ditch light exempt? 605 sure is sharp

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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby scottychaos » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:33 am

deandremouse wrote:So That Would Be:

Is CNJ 1554 a museum piece or still on active duty on the Delaware Lackawanna?



1554 is owned and operated by the DL. She is not a museum piece, so she can be added to the list! :)

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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby scottychaos » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:49 am

Do you want to include RS3's outside of the USA?
"SuperVia" in Brazil has two operating, 7113 and 7120.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 45&nseq=17

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3308558

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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby deandremouse » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:11 am

scottychaos wrote:Do you want to include RS3's outside of the USA?
"SuperVia" in Brazil has two operating, 7113 and 7120.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 45&nseq=17

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3308558

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In that case there are also CPTM's ALCo RS3s

6001-6004 In Amazing Condition

http://alcoworld.railfan.net/cptm.htm

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2318023

https://www.flickr.com/search?text=cptm ... =relevance
(according to photographer in the entirety of Brazil, 15 or less RS3s are still in existence)

CBTU's stored retired stuff

http://rcabredo.blogspot.com/2010/08/es ... ldina.html

http://oblogferroviario.blogspot.com/20 ... ldina.html

According to the site the others were cut up, and only 7126 still rots away.
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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby RonM » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:55 pm

Well until a few years ago Housatonic RS3m 9935 nee Conrail qualified. A sad tale. Hopefully she will operate again.
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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby deandremouse » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:44 am

RonM wrote:Well until a few years ago Housatonic RS3m 9935 nee Conrail qualified. A sad tale. Hopefully she will operate again.


What happened to that one?
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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby deandremouse » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:58 am

Active ALCo RS3/3m Locomotives(non-tourist/museum)
United States
BKRR 605, 4116
DL 1554, 4068, 4103, 4118
LAL 506
MDDE 1201, 1202, 1203

Intact - Not In Service
//NYGL 935
//HRRC 9935

Brazil
SuperVia 7113 and 7120
CPTM 6001-6004

Intact - Not In Service
CBTU 7108, 7122, 7126 (All Stored In a State of Disrepair)
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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby CREEPING DEATH » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:34 am

scottychaos wrote:Do you want to include RS3's outside of the USA?
"SuperVia" in Brazil has two operating, 7113 and 7120.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 45&nseq=17

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3308558

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I think those are 7FDL-powered, just FYI. 7113 looks to have the telltale larger stack.

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Re: Active ALCO RS3s?

Postby Allen Hazen » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:53 pm

Creeping Death--
Could you tell us more about this? Re-engining an Alco with a (GE) 7FDL engine sounds as if it should be possible: the GE engine is heavier, but not TOO different in dimensions, and it operates in the same speed range, so ought to be compatible with the original electrical gear (after all, GE used the same GT581 generator on some of its own locomotives that it supplied Alco for RS-3 etc), but to my knowledge it has never been done in North America. (Price may have something to do with that, I suppose.) The nearest I can recall was a re-engining in the opposite direction: NdeM rebuilt at least one GE locomotive (perhaps an ex-SP U33C that they had acquired after it was wrecked in Mexico) with an Alco 251 engine.
I'd be interested in any history or technical details you can provide!
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