Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

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Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

Postby B44NYC » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:46 pm

Hi everyone, I've been searching hi & low for 2 Amtrak Sleepers & 2 Coaches (not coach baggage) in Phase III with the plated finish.

Does anyone know of any LHS that might have these sitting in a stock room collecting dust? Any info appreciated...

Or, If anyone on the forum is willing to swap Phase III's for my own plated Phase IVb's, please send me a message if your interested in trading.

Thanks
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Re: Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

Postby Amtrak207 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:39 pm

Hey,

You may be in luck if you want to wait.

When I spoke to the Walthers rep in Atlanta last year, he said that there would be another run of Superliners for 2014 (SI and SII) but these would be given new product numbers under the "PROTO" line, and upgraded with window gaskets and correctly tinted windows.

*fingers crossed.

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Re: Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

Postby B44NYC » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:47 am

Thanks for the info Tom. I had a feeling they were going to re-release the Superliners. Now my fingers are crossed for Horizon cars.
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Re: Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

Postby Amtrak207 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:27 am

No problem my friend.

In regards to the Horizon cars, it has been already discussed at Walthers, they are mostly waiting to see how the Amfleets sell.

From my other posts in the Amfleet thread

"Speaking of Superliners.... a REVISED retooled Superliner I and II will be coming out, with a more realistic plated finish, correctly tinted windows, and window gaskets. I asked them about a 37000-series Diner-Lounge car, for people that model the City of New Orleans and Texas Eagle. The rep just smiled and said it was an oversight that the 37000's weren't produced as it would basically only be a lettering and interior change as it uses a SI Diner carbody. So we shall see..."


Walthers seems to be "mum" on Viewliners. I imagine so but they may be waiting until the V-II's come out.

Walthers rep last year said the Superliner I and II will be run again under the Proto line. They will feature window gasket detail and prototypically correct tinted windows (brought up to Amfleet standards.) Thry said the Diner-Lounge/Cross country cafe 37000-series cars were an oversight as to why they didn't produce them. So maybe we will see those too.

So consider those retooled-retooled Superliners!

Walthers is also aware that there are more Amtrak modelers now than before, so that bodes well for us.


As I have stated before, Waltherrs can always change their minds at a moment's notice. So vote with buying the Amfleets. The Amfleet I's are gorgeous, the A-II's are a work of art with the extra grab irons and such. For those who think (and I am one of them) that they're too shiny, 1-2 coats of Alclad ALC 600 Aqua Gloss Clear WILL SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, and tone it down. Everyone's opinions is different, so you stop when you feel the sheen is correct.

Back to the point here, keep the requests for Superliners (and tell them you want them brought up to Amfleet standards), as well as Horizons (this has a good shot of passing!)

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Re: Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

Postby B44NYC » Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:53 am

Tom, I just got 6 Amfleet I in Phase IVb with the light kits and they are gorgeous!! Unfortunately, I had to pop one car open because the lights wouldn't stay on but it was relatively easy to fix.

I'm saving up to spring for the Amfleets in Phase I & III next. Only thing I have to get now is some powered graphite. because they do run tight!!!
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Re: Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

Postby Amtrak207 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:33 am

The cars WILL loosen up with some break in and graphite. Mine roll much better now. They are beautiful aren't they??

I said it in the other Amfleet thread, if you disassemble the cars, GO SLOW and do not pry from the bottom, you WILL rip some details off the underbody. A little time and patience goes a long way here. :)

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Re: Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

Postby Amtrak207 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:19 am

SJ,

I hope you saw the other thread, but as I stated earlier, Walthers is coming out with more plated Superliners (the Phase III you wanted) along with all the details and addons I mentioned in Feb.

Hope you like!!

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Re: Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

Postby B44NYC » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:16 am

Hi Tom, Yes, I saw the announcement and already picked up the Phase III coaches. Now if Walthers can only update & release Horizon, 1700 Baggage, Viewliner cars, and the right California Cars within the next couple of years......
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Re: Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

Postby Amtrak207 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:17 am

Horizons are coming, stay tuned...

(I am sure the Viewliner I and II models will be released as well, but nothing so far.)


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Re: Wanted: Walthers Phase III Plated Superliners

Postby electricron » Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:28 pm

Here's what's available this fall (2015).
Superliner Is in Phase III and Phase IVb
Superliner IIs in Phase IV and Phase IVb
They're available with interior lighting or not, there's about a $10 difference in MSRP.
Standard coaches, sleepers, diners, and lounges available in both I and II models.
Baggage-coach only available in a I model, transition sleeper only available in a II model, being prototypical.
There isn't a Cross Country car, but I suppose one could use a Superliner I diner and get the outside very close, but the inside of that car will not be correct.

If you're not modeling the latest IVb livery, you'll be missing one car type each with III and IV liveries. ;)
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