St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby NHV 669 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:38 pm

Headed to Waterville for work on "fried traction motors".
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:43 pm

I'm mildly surprised they can't handle this in Auburn. Not exactly a shock but ...

So how much can be done in Auburn to service engines?
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Mikejf » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:36 pm

Pretty sure Auburn does light maintenance, and routine maintenance. The heavy stuff is sent out.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:00 pm

Hello,
Although I did not see either train today ...

Westbound 393 departed Lewiston Junction at 1300 and arrived in Island Pond at 1929

Eastbound 393 arrived in Island Pond at 1844 and departed at 2005

I have heard that the Brompton bridge may be out of service for 2-3 months.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby MEC407 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:20 am

gokeefe wrote:I'm mildly surprised they can't handle this in Auburn. Not exactly a shock but ...

So how much can be done in Auburn to service engines?


Back in the Emmons Transportation days, they did a lot at the Lewiston Junction shop. It's possible that the shop's capabilities have been scaled back during the GWI era.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby NHV 669 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:41 pm

multiple fried traction motors, faster to have it back in service by having a bigger shop do it. Speaking of, it was supposed to be headed back on last night's WAPO.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby S1f3432 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:29 pm

I remember driving by the Lewiston Jct. shop during warm weather when the doors were all open and seeing
one of the GP40's up on jacks so truck and traction motor work is probably something they're capable of. As
others have said it's probably a matter of manpower-time-space and how soon they want something done.
Back when the shop building was built I heard criticism from some that the stalls were short- a unit like a
GP40 fit with not a lot of room to spare. With that in mind I wonder if an SD40 would fit?
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby CN9634 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:27 am

The answer is what is so different about the 6904 as compared to the rest of the fleet?
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby S1f3432 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:46 pm

6904 is an SD40, the rest of the current fleet are all 4 axle units- GP40's, Slugs rebuilt from GP35's and SW1500's.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:15 pm

So the shop is unable to work on 3 axle trucks,only 2 axle trucks.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:07 pm

Hello,
Today's SLQ eastbound 394 was running earlier than usual from Sherbrooke, and so I caught them rolling into Island Pond at 1528 with the following:

RM-1 804
GP40-3 3804
GP40-2 3008
QG GP40 3102
8 centerbeam flats
1 bulkhead flat
4 hi-cube boxcars
3 boxcars
1 tank car
23 propane cars

That's 40 cars total, including 34 loads and 6 empties.

Because the 7 lumber loads for RCP Transit were mixed throughout the front half the train, they will still switching when I left Island Pond at 1630.

Meanwhile, the SLR westbound 393 had departed Lewiston Junction at 1515.

The current operating pattern seems to be an eastbound and westbound roughly every two days through Island Pond. The eastbound, which comes off the CMQ in Lennoxville, has been arriving in Island Pond in late afternoon, and then continues east with the Island Pond-based crew.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby NHV 669 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:21 pm

Correct on the inability to work on six-axles at the LJ shops.

As for the detours, I have no idea. However, trains are being dropped at Groveton, with certain cars being forwarded to whatever trains are left at IP. Random light power moves occurring here & there. 6904 was back on that 393 yesterday, there were 5 units total; 76 cars. There's a video on the SLR sightings FB page of it headed through S. Paris.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:26 pm

Hello,
Today's SLQ eastbound 394 departed Sherbrooke at 1356 and arrived in Island Pond at 1628 with the following:

QG GP40 3105
QG SD40U 6904
GP40-3 3805
RM-1 805
GP40-3 3803
7 centerbeam flats
1 bulkhead flat
5 NaClO3 hoppers
2 salt hoppers
6 covered hoppers
19 tank cars
10 propane cars
22 boxcars
20 hi-cube boxcars

That's 92 cars total, including 63 loads and 29 empties.

SLR 393 should be back in Island Pond around 2200 and return west to the CMQ at Lennoxville.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Mikejf » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:18 pm

According to a Facebook post, 394 will have 3 NS units on it tonight, and will return West tomorrow on 393.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:26 pm

Hello,
Yes, today's SLQ eastbound 394 did have something different:

NS C44-9W 9448
NS C44-9W 9803
NS C40-8W 8380
5 centerbeam flats
1 bulkhead flat
3 covered hoppers
6 sodium chlorate hoppers
12 tank cars
22 propane cars
8 boxcars
11 hi-cube boxcars

That's 68 cars total, including loads and empties. They left Sherbrooke around 1430, set out 3 carbon black hoppers in Waterville, reached the border at Norton at 1645, and arrived in Island Pond at 1747. It sounds likely that the NS units will return west on tomorrow's 393, but that is just a guess.

Earlier this morning (around 0915) these three units had been switching the "yard" in Sherbrooke along with QGRY SD40U 6908, which must have been left behind, perhaps to help pull tomorrow's 394.

A short while earlier, I had heard the SLR 3805 getting clearance from the RTC to proceed west from Farnham on the Adirondack Sub, so that there should be another train out of Montreal today/tonight. Based on their conversation, it sounded like the train was crewed by an SLQ engineer and a CMQ pilot.

In regards to the bridge at Brompton, I had a conversation today with a colleague from the Quebec government. He mentioned that they have now dragged the downed bridge out of the river and up onto the bank (in his words, it looks like a beached whale). They have not been able to lift the bridge out of the water due to its great weight (240,000 pounds). Currently, they are discussing whether to re-use or scrap the old bridge, as it is apparently bent about 10" out of alignment. Meanwhile, it is costing GWRR approximately $79,000 per day to detour trains via CMQ and CP to Montreal.
Have a great night,
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