St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:32 pm

Hello,
Surprisely, this relatively warm morning was a busy morning in Island Pond. First, SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond at 0904 with the following:

QG GP40 3102
GP40-2 3004
GP40-2 3047
GP40-3 3803
RM-1 805
9 TTZX centerbeam flats (possibly coming out of storage?)
4 NaClO3 hoppers
1 SSW covered hopper
3 boxcars
7 hi-cube boxcars
16 tank cars
20 propane cars

That's 60 cars total, including 10 loads and 50 empties.

Shortly afterwards, a loaded rail train headed east with the following:

GP40-3 3804
RM-1 804
1 OMNX gondola
31 LBFX flat cars

The rail train boarded its own crew in Groveton 1030 and continued east almost to Stark, where they began unloading rail west of the Route 110 crossing. They will unload approximately 48,000 feet of rail (30 rails x 1,600 feet each) today and tomorrow over a 50 mile stretch of line across northern New Hampshire. Not sure where they will tie down the train tonight (possibly Berlin?).
Have a great day,
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:57 pm

Absolutely nothing short of amazing to see this kind of investment continuing.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:16 am

gokeefe,
I believe that these improvements are funded by a combination of State/Federal and railroad dollars. Here's a link to a news article describing the "kick off" last fall:

http://www.newhampshire.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20161004/NEWS09/161009792

Apparently, they replaced approximately 5 miles of rail last fall and will be doing another 5 miles this year (probably next fall as well).
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby S1f3432 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:45 pm

SLR also replaced some of the stick rail at the top of the grade in Bryant Pond last summer- I don't know how
far down the hill it extends. The rail at the bottom of the grade is longer-length jointed rail installed towards
the end of CN ownership.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:32 am

Hello,
Today's SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond right as the first flakes of snow started falling at 0921:

RM-1 804
GP40-3 3804
GP40-2 3004
GP40-3 3803
RM-1 805
7 centerbeam flats (6 TTZX possibly coming out of storage?)
2 NaClO3 hoppers
10 boxcars
14 hi-cube boxcars
13 tank cars
25 propane cars
5 AIMX hi-sided gondolas

That's 76 cars total, including 21 loads and 55 empties.

They left roughly 10 empty centerbeam flats in the yard at Island Pond (and there were another 5 unloading at RCP).

Finally, word is that the SLQ will soon start running the 393/394 trains to and from Southwark Yard in St. Lambert, just outside of Montreal. Currently, these trains are handled into and out of Richmond by CN crews. There is no definite start date, as there are still many details to be worked out.

Have a great weekend,
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:10 pm

Wow. That's very big news. I'm curious why CN is doing this.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:16 am

gokeefe,
Good question. Rumor is that they may do the same for NECR (NECR crews will handle 323/324 into and out of Montreal). Not sure why the change.

Needing cat food provided Abby and me with a good excuse to go to Island Pond yesterday morning to catch the SLQ westbound 393 departing at 0859:

GP40-2 3008
QG GP40 3105
GP40-2 3007
GP40-3 3805
23 centerbeam flats
2 hi-cube boxcars
2 boxcars
5 tank cars
17 propane tanks
3 covered hoppers
1 SLR flat car (loaded with stick rail)

That's 53 cars total, including 7 loads and 46 empties.

The SLR 20 flat car had been pulled from the NHCR lead at Groveton. Not sure if it loaded on NHCR or SLR, maybe rail pulled from the demolition of the Wasau and Groveton paper mills?

Twenty of the 23 centerbeam flats were from RCP in Island Pond, as Friday's train had left ten or so behind.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:35 am

On this rather dreary morning, the SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond at 0850 with the following:

GP40-2 3008
GP40-2 3007
GP40-3 3805
9 centerbeam flats (all from RCP)
7 hi-cube boxcars
5 boxcars
10 tank cars
12 propane tanks
1 covered hoppers
3 NaClO3 hoppers

That's 47 cars total, including 3 loads and 44 empties.
Have a great day,
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:20 am

Hello,
Today's SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond at 0852 with the following:

GP40 3004
GP40-3 3803
RM-1 805
19 centerbeam flats
1 bulkhead flat
1 NaClO3 hopper
2 covered hoppers
12 boxcars
5 hi-cube boxcars
8 tank cars
20 propane cars

That's 68 cars total, including 9 loads and 59 empties.

The 19 centerbeam flats included 8 more TTZX flats. That's the third group of these flats that I have seen in the last two weeks. I am guessing these are coming out of storage, possibly somewhere on ST?

RCP had only one centerbeam flat to unload today.

Have a great weekend,
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:00 am

Hello,
Today's SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond at 0843 with the following:

GP40 3004
GP40-3 3803
QG GP40 3102
12 centerbeam flats
1 NaClO3 hopper
2 covered hoppers
5 boxcars
6 hi-cube boxcars
9 tank cars
20 propane cars
2 hi-sided gondolas

That's 57 cars total, including 6 loads and 51 empties.

The centerbeam flats included 4 more TTZX flats, possibly coming out of storage on ST?
Have a great day,
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Fri May 05, 2017 10:27 am

Hello,
I was busy this week doing work along the Connecticut and Upper Ammonoosuc Rivers, which parallel the SLR across northern New Hampshire.

On Tuesday, I missed the SLQ westbound 393 because it had already left Island Pond by 0750. However, around noon, a "parade" of four high-rail trucks, including a large boom truck, were working there way west along the SLR through Stark, New Hampshire. Not sure what they were doing.

Then, on Wednesday, I found the SLQ westbound 393 was idling in the yard at Island Pond with the following:

GP40 3004
GP40-2 3008
GP40-3 3805
RM-1 804
35-40 cars (I couldn't wait for them to leave)

Today, thes SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond at 0750 with the following:

QG GP40 3102
GP40-3 3803
GP40-2 3035
QG SD40 6904
12 centerbeam flats
3 NaClO3 hoppers
6 covered hoppers
17 boxcars
14 hi-cube boxcars
12 tank cars
14 propane cars

That's 78 cars total, including 16 loads and 62 empties. That's the longest train I have seen in awhile. Lots of loaded boxcars and hi-cube boxcars, including loads off both SLR and PAR, but also lots of empty boxcars, including both CN "family" and assorted NS and CSX boxcars. The centerbeam flats included 6 more TTZX flats, possibly coming out of storage on ST?
Have a great weekend,
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Tue May 09, 2017 8:56 am

Hello,
Hello, today's SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond at 0827 with the following:

GP40-2 3008
QG GP40 3105
GP40-2 3047
5 centerbeam flats
1 bulkhead flat
3 NaClO3 hoppers
3 covered hoppers
3 boxcars
9 hi-cube boxcars
6 tank cars
9 propane cars

That's 39 cars total, including 10 loads and 29 empties. That is a short train for a Tuesday, first train presumably since last Saturday.
Have a great day,
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Wed May 10, 2017 9:21 am

Hello,
Today's SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond around 0750 and reached the VT/QC border at 0842 with the following:

QG GP40 3105
GP40-3 3803
7 centerbeam flats
1 NaClO3 hoppers
8 boxcars
1 hi-cube boxcar
6 tank cars
5 propane cars

That's only 28 cars total, including 1 load and 27 empties.

Today and yesterday's short trains make me wonder if they have adjusted the schedule, perhaps by adding additional trains during the week?

Word is that the SLQ ran their first Richmond-Southwark Turn yesterday with three six-axles, so I would guess that CN is no longer making the Montreal-Richmond Turn.
Have a good day,
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Mikejf » Wed May 10, 2017 10:12 am

I have heard that there is a possibility the road jobs will move to days on the eastern end. Would that then make the turn to Richmond a night job?
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Fri May 12, 2017 9:38 pm

Hello,
On the way home from Maine, we caught the SLR eastbound 394 crossing the Connecticut River into North Stratford at 2106 with the following:

GP40-2 3047
QG GP40 3105
GP40-2 3008
3 tank cars
2 NaClO3 hoppers
1 bulkhead flat w/poles
1 centerbeam flat w/lumber
9 hi-cube boxcars

That's it: 16 cars total. Not sure why all of sudden trains are so short on the SLR in the past week.
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