How many different paint schemes for CNJ pax service?

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How many different paint schemes for CNJ pax service?

Postby Steve F45 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:49 pm

Looking for some help. How many different paint schemes were there for the passenger diesels? From the baby faces to the GP's and everything in between. Trying to decide what scheme to do for a model.
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Re: How many different paint schemes for pax service?

Postby GSC » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:46 am

I remember the dark green with yellow side strips and V stripes on the ends, dark green without the nose stripes, "Red Baron" on a couple GP7s and RS3s, and the blue and gold B&O color scheme on the GP40s. Passenger cars had been dark green, and later dark blue with gold letter boards (almost a Blue Comet re-creation).

The Babyfaces had been something other than green as well, but I don't really remember what the scheme was. Somebody out there older than me might know.
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Re: How many different paint schemes for pax service?

Postby Ken W2KB » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:22 pm

GSC wrote:I remember the dark green with yellow side strips and V stripes on the ends, dark green without the nose stripes, "Red Baron" on a couple GP7s and RS3s, and the blue and gold B&O color scheme on the GP40s. Passenger cars had been dark green, and later dark blue with gold letter boards (almost a Blue Comet re-creation).

The Babyfaces had been something other than green as well, but I don't really remember what the scheme was. Somebody out there older than me might know.


The Babyfaces were originally tangerine (upper half) and blue below. Later they were painted in the green with two gold stripes scheme. I don't recall ever seeing the first scheme other than on the repainted F3s acquired for the NJ historical collection from Maine, which was very interesting to me, as it let me see what I had missed.
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Re: How many different paint schemes for pax service?

Postby Steve F45 » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:47 pm

I was checking out a few of the paint schemes while at work. The orange and blue and the red baron I like. But im trying to visualize both on a modern day cowled unit.
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Re: How many different paint schemes for pax service?

Postby CAR_FLOATER » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:37 pm

Pick up either the 3-issue ARHS article on CNJ diesel paint schemes, or Gerard E. Burnett's out of print Jersey Central Diesels. These will give you pretty much the down-low on every scheme with dates.

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Re: How many different paint schemes for pax service?

Postby Steve F45 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:42 pm

CAR_FLOATER wrote:Pick up either the 3-issue ARHS article on CNJ diesel paint schemes, or Gerard E. Burnett's out of print Jersey Central Diesels. These will give you pretty much the down-low on every scheme with dates.

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Thanks, i'll see if I can pick it up thru the library.
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Re: How many different paint schemes for pax service?

Postby GSC » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:56 pm

Some Trainmasters were painted just plain green, with no stripes.
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Re: How many different paint schemes for pax service?

Postby Ken W2KB » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:52 pm

GSC wrote:Some Trainmasters were painted just plain green, with no stripes.


I think they were originally painted with the stripes and later they were repainted solid, probably as a cost saving measure. Not certain, though.
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Re: How many different paint schemes for pax service?

Postby GSC » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:39 pm

Later in life a few were all green, obviously a repaint. I think it was 2408 I saw most of the time in that scheme.

If Steve F45 is modeling a FM H-16-44, don't forget the CNJ Liberty logo on the art deco "hood" over the headlights.
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Re: How many different paint schemes for pax service?

Postby kilroy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:32 pm

The Babyfaces were originally tangerine (upper half) and blue below.


For the double enders, the first three were delivered as described with a red stripe between the Tangerine and Blue. The second order of three did not have the red stripe and had the roof painted balck (as the units made their roofs on the first three black in no time from the exhaust).

All were painted Seafoam later.
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Re: How many different paint schemes for pax service?

Postby GSC » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:10 am

Curious to know that if the CNJ survived, what color scheme would be in place now. A coin toss between Red Baron and blue & gold, I'd say, with stainless or aluminum pax cars, probably Arrows.
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