NECR/P&W Executive Special

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Re: NECR/P&W Executive Special

Postby Reader#108 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:12 pm

Is the Moosup trackage part of the NECR/PW run up to Worcester?
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Re: NECR/P&W Executive Special

Postby Cosmo » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:21 am

Ummm... no,... there IS NO "Moosup trackage" anymore, just a rail trail.
The HP&F ends in Plainfield, CT, on the West side of 395.
To get to Providence from there, they need to either go South to Amtrak then North, OR go North to Worcester then South over the P&W main.
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Re: NECR/P&W Executive Special

Postby etna9726b » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:36 pm

The X in Plainfield does not appear (per Bing maps) to have a connector on the west side to northbound P&W. Trains from Willimantic would have to proceed northeastbound through the X, then reverse through an existing connector on the eastside, in order to get on P&W.
(note: there does appear to be a long runout track on the old HP&F that could hold a decent length train).

Is Bing maps out of date, are there plans to install a connecting track there ?
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Re: NECR/P&W Executive Special

Postby Cosmo » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:00 pm

etna9726b wrote:The X in Plainfield does not appear (per Bing maps) to have a connector on the west side to northbound P&W. Trains from Willimantic would have to proceed northeastbound through the X, then reverse through an existing connector on the eastside, in order to get on P&W.
(note: there does appear to be a long runout track on the old HP&F that could hold a decent length train).

Is Bing maps out of date, are there plans to install a connecting track there ?

The diamond ("X") at Plainfield was removed 2 or 3 years ago. The track that runs up the old HP&F aways is there to serve a sand & gravel pit on the line.
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Re: NECR/P&W Executive Special

Postby Dick H » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:52 am

Another NECR/P&W OCS run yesterday. Montpelier Jct VT to Worcester MA.
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Re: NECR/P&W Executive Special

Postby KEN PATRICK » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:05 am

My limited rail experience yields maintenance costs of $.35-$.50 per car per mile. So if a 25% uptick is true, then $.63 x 30 miles is $18.90 x 2 or $37.80 per car versus my suggested $100x2. Speed & pricing? How much of an increase when all railroads stuggle to better 20mph? My disbelief at the proposed routing arises from the additional 100+ miles- 10 hours/200 miles on the equipment. If you use $800/hr for GP power, a 60 car train @263 or 1581 tons and 5 hp/ton or about 8000hp ( 2 gp's), your power costs alone are $133 per car in and probably out since your baseline of 2 gp's would not change. Add in maintenance of $126 per car , your spending $392/car versus $200 plus pwrr"s ($1600 x 4hr)+ (60 x $.63)/60= $107 or $307/car. $85/car x 60 x 5 = $25,500 per week . $1.3 mil/year. I respect all the info in this forum but nothing stated can offset the additional costs. I remain convinced this is a negotiating tool for cn versus csxt. It will not survive the process. What am i missing? Ken Patrickken patrickKEN PATRICK

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