PW Locomotives Leased to Other Railroads

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PW Locomotives Leased to Other Railroads

Postby 161pw165 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:20 pm

So with the MBTA leasing PW 4001-4005 in addition to AMTK having the 2006 & 2010 and PAR with the 2009, if memory serves that's 1/4 of their roster. Is this a reflection of a weakening traffic base or have they acquired too much power recently in anticipation of business that hasn't materialized? Are they now experiencing what the rest of the industry has been going through this year? Maybe trying to get some short-term revenue for the new owners?
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Re: Leasing Power

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:33 pm

They've been cycling through some leasers of their own, so could simply be a market fluctuation that there's more total money to be had leasing out a few of their own while picking up a few GATX rentals on the side. Pan Am does this sort of simultaneous give-and-take leasing all the time, so it's hardly a new thing. It could mean nothing more than we're just entering a brief phase where it's economically advantageous for carriers of medium-or-better roster size to engage in more short-term horse trading.

Probably doesn't have a lot to do with G&W. P&W has mostly a GE Dash 8 roster, with ongoing purge over the last few years of its EMD's (GP40's are all gone, just a half-dozen GP38's left and couple recent SD70M cheapie pickups to buff out the six-axle ranks). NECR is nuthin' but EMD Geeps and SD40's with just a couple Dash 8's shared with CSOR, and SLR is nuthin' but Geeps of various stripes. Doesn't make any sense for the new mothership in Darien to force top-down fleet fragmentation on any of its New England roads when maint costs are most optimal keeping the EMD's with the EMD users and the GE's with the GE user.
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Re: PW Locomotives Leased to Other Railroads

Postby MEC407 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:14 pm

Why is the T leasing five Dash 8s?
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Re: PW Locomotives Leased to Other Railroads

Postby BostonUrbEx » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:02 pm

Do you mean why are they leasing in general, or specifically that model of locomotive? To the latter, I'm not sure.

Keolis was down to a single working switcher, the 904, when the lease was executed. 3247, 3248, and 3249 were all at BET. The 904 was being used for both the North Side work train during the day and the North Side wash train at night. The Readville Switcher was using the 1119, I believe. There's a big crunch right now for working locomotives and in-service coaches, so using an engine suitable for passenger service as a switcher wasn't the best idea. These P&W engines are also equipped with ACSES, which is crucial for South Side service.

Currently the 4003 is on the North Side work/wash trains. I assume the 904 went to the Readville Switcher on the South Side and the other engines haven't shown up yet?
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Re: PW Locomotives Leased to Other Railroads

Postby MEC407 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:05 pm

BostonUrbEx wrote:Do you mean why are they leasing in general, or specifically that model of locomotive? To the latter, I'm not sure.


I was referring to both the model and the quantity. I had no idea that 75% of their official work locomotives were OOS. What's up with that?
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Re: PW Locomotives Leased to Other Railroads

Postby GP40MC1118 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:59 pm

The Gensets are in storage with multiple issues. The 3249 has been out for a long time, with the
3248 joining it a few weeks. The 3247, in the meantime, has been run into the ground. Apparently
that kind of usage finally caught up to it.

The 904 is in the shop too since last week, which leaves the 4003 for the Northside. In fact, it will
be on a Worcester Line Stone Train Sunday out of BET. Dumping between CP4-CP11.

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Re: PW Locomotives Leased to Other Railroads

Postby freightguy » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:24 pm

GATX, had stock in PW. Not sure how that will work now wirh G&W takeover.
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Re: PW Locomotives Leased to Other Railroads

Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:09 pm

per a drop off last week, for those keeping record, the 4003 was returned to the P&W
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Re: PW Locomotives Leased to Other Railroads

Postby GP40MC1118 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:04 pm

The 4003 was barely used and the other four never came on T property.

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