Earthquake in New Zealand

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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby David Benton » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:12 am

I would be devastated if that occurred, and will be voting and advocating against our current govt for even letting it be an option. I am still getting over my "Trumpression",set back by his EPA choice, so we will certainly be hammering the environmental advantages of rail.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby David Benton » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:20 am

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=11764049
This video and interactive map lets you zoom in on the damage to the Railway. This is only a section of the damaged line, though probably the worst of the damage.
The flyby video doesn't give a good idea of the scale of the damage, I feel. Those hills are probably ranging 100 to 200 metres in height , and it does not show the mountains behind them . Some of the TV videos from helicopters gave a better idea, I think .
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby philipmartin » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:26 am

David Benton wrote:I would be devastated if that [permanent loss of rail service] occurred,
. I am sorry that you are in this ambiguous situation, David.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby David Benton » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:39 pm

I am confident the railway will remain open, wether by political pressure on the govt , or change of govt next year.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby george matthews » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:57 pm

David Benton wrote:I am confident the railway will remain open, wether by political pressure on the govt , or change of govt next year.

The existing route seems to be rather vulnerable to earth movement. Maybe a new route could be found that is not so near steep slopes that can fall down when there is movement. The original designers of the route didn't appreciate the risks of earthquakes. But of course the same problem is found on the GW route in England where even Brunel put it too close to the sea and ignored the vulnerabilities to flooding that have been affecting it now for 160 years or so.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby David Benton » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:42 pm

I doubt a better route exists, George. The whole regions is steep mountains, and multiple fault lines.
But the existing line can be improved , and made more resilient.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby george matthews » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:25 am

philipmartin wrote:Rebuilt British Rail cars in NZ.

http://youtu.be/DX2lsTYMEfA


Mark 2 carriages are not much in use in Britain now. They have long been superseded by more modern varieties. That's the reason they are for sale.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby David Benton » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:59 pm

They rurned out to be quite rusty , and were fully stripped and rebuilt. It got us through a carriage shortage , but I don't think they will be buying anymore. they now have a new carriage design , which can be built locally , or more likely, in China.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby David Benton » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:55 am

The government announces the road and rail links will be reopened! Good news.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news ... d=11767474
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby David Benton » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:57 am

"KiwiRail welcomes commitment to rebuild rail"
http://www.kiwirail.co.nz/news/449/78/K ... -rail.html

The question now is timing , how long will the "temporary" line take to build , and long will the permament repairs take . Not to mention the chances of another big shake are high.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby David Benton » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:24 pm

Supermarket gifts stock on stranded train to The town of Kaikoura.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8799215 ... o-kaikoura
In a related article, I dont think advertising the fact there is a pallet of beer on the train is much help to the forces trying to stop looting.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby johnthefireman » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:35 am

David Benton wrote:Anyone heard from "John the fireman" , John Ashworth , he hasnt been on here since Nov 10th ? I hope he is ok , he did mention having trouble logging in from Sudan, but that he was only there for a week.


Thanks, David, and my apologies. I was out of internet contact for quite a while in November and December, not only in South Sudan but I was travelling in southern Africa without my laptop and just didn't seem to get good internet connections, and trying to do it on my smartphone didn't seem to work very well. Somehow I completely missed the New Zealand earthquake and have only just now got round to looking at the thread. I add my belated condolences for any deaths, injuries, damage and other disruption.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby johnthefireman » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:52 am

Incidentally, regarding the dicussion on end of train markers, in South Africa trains have to run with either a marker (red disc by day, red lamp by night) or a telemeter on the last vehicle. I think the same is true in Kenya. At least two of the train documents carried on the train (the List of Vehicles and the Train Load Certificate) have the number of the last vehicle clearly recorded on them, so there should never be any doubt whether a train is complete or not.
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby David Benton » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:47 am

KiwiRail repairs first section of Main North Line south of Picton to Lake Grassmere
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-eart ... -grassmere
Lake Grassmere is NZ's only local source of salt.

Lake Grassmere saltworks picks up tab for added freight costs
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8817675 ... ight-costs
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Re: Earthquake in New Zealand

Postby David Benton » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:31 pm

First train south to Lake Grassmere a 'milestone' for Main North Line repairs
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8844108 ... ne-repairs
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