TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

All about the Arcade & Attica Railroad

Moderator: Benjamin Maggi

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby RussNelson » Wed May 11, 2016 11:47 pm

thebigham wrote:And a shorter stretch:

http://binged.it/1Z1vpPi

The grade is raised here, but very overgrown with brush

I suspect that you could find more embankment on the west side of the stream that feeds Cuba Lake, if you could get over there.

There's a driveway just west of where Cuba Lake Inlet crosses CR-7D. I suspect that this is TV&C railbed. There's also an edge of a field which lines up with the driveway. Also suspected. IF you can get permission and IF it's not too brushy, you could possibly find embankment at the north end of that field.

All just guesswork, but backed up by decades of photo-interpretation and field research. If the CIA ever needs somebody to locate abandoned railroads, there's probably nobody better than me. :-)
User avatar
RussNelson
 
Posts: 3786
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:20 am
Location: Potsdam, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby thebigham » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:19 pm

I went to the Rushford golf course yesterday and looked for the TV&C grade.

The owner was there and told me they removed some of the TV&C grade near Hole 6 a few years ago.

He also said that he would show me this spring a cut built by the TV&C south of Hardy Corners Road.

He said his aunt has a silo on her farm that was supposedly shipped to the farm on the TV&C.

Here's the TV&C grade through the Rushford golf course.
Attachments
a4.png
thebigham
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:27 pm
Location: Arcade, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby thebigham » Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:22 pm

Here's the TV&C 1882 survey map and a pic of the grade today (Feb. 2017) on the Oil Springs Indian Reservation between Cuba and Cuba Lake.
Attachments
100_3016.JPG
100_3020.JPG
Last edited by thebigham on Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
thebigham
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:27 pm
Location: Arcade, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby thebigham » Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:24 pm

Here's the TV&C grade at the Rushford golf course.

I'm standing on the grade.
Attachments
100_3013.JPG
thebigham
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:27 pm
Location: Arcade, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby dj_paige » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:14 am

Once again, great work!
Paige
"If you get the chance to sit it out or dance, I hope you dance" -- LeAnn Rimes
My Flickr Photos
User avatar
dj_paige
 
Posts: 432
Joined: Sat May 01, 2004 10:10 am
Location: Rochester, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby RussNelson » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:45 am

thebigham wrote:Here's the TV&C 1882 survey map and a pic of the grade today (Feb. 2017) on the Oil Springs Indian Reservation between Cuba and Cuba Lake.

Somewhere around here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/211538756
User avatar
RussNelson
 
Posts: 3786
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:20 am
Location: Potsdam, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby RussNelson » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:47 am

thebigham wrote:Here's the TV&C grade at the Rushford golf course.

I'm standing on the grade.

Somewhere around here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/646154419
User avatar
RussNelson
 
Posts: 3786
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:20 am
Location: Potsdam, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby thebigham » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:20 pm

Today I headed to "Fairview" on the TV&C.

All traces of the TV&C grade are gone from where it crossed Fairvew Road.

It has to be around here: https://binged.it/2ohO8K8

I've attached the TV&C survey map and a 1939 aerial photo that has a faint yellow line where my friend thinks the TV&C grade was.

I have permission to hike. The owner thinks there are traces of the TV&C grade near where the TV&C crossed County Line Road (which is the border between Cattaraugus County and Allegany County).
Attachments
100_2890.JPG
Shows the TV&C from where it crossed County Line Road to Fairview Road
100_2891.JPG
Where the TV&C crossed Fairview Road
100_1484.JPG
1939 Aerial photo
thebigham
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:27 pm
Location: Arcade, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby thebigham » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:27 am

I hiked yesterday from Fairview Road back to the old County Line road. We eventually found the TV&C. It's visible and walkable east of County Line Road.

Now west of County Line Road, there was a substantial bridge over the creek. We found the TV&C grade on the other side of the creek, but the brush was so thick, we turned back.

We did not have time to hike east of Fairview Road.
Attachments
100_3157.JPG
100_3156.JPG
100_3155.JPG
thebigham
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:27 pm
Location: Arcade, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby thebigham » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:33 am

The TV&C had a culvert or a bridge over the stream here.

This location is the first survey map above with the stream flowing north.

Just after this location, the grade has been plowed under for a field next to Fairview Road.
Attachments
100_3159.JPG
100_3158.JPG
thebigham
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:27 pm
Location: Arcade, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby thebigham » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:09 pm

I'm hoping to get land owner permission soon to hike east of Fairview Road.

Below are two pics from 1952 aerial photos that shows what looks to be the TV&C grade.

The 3rd photo is Google Maps today. The diagonal line in the middle of the green field could be the raised TV&C grade?!?
Attachments
Untitled.png
East of Fairview Road
tvcSummit3.png
tvcrrsummit5.png
Google Maps
thebigham
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:27 pm
Location: Arcade, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby thebigham » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:43 pm

On Sunday I found the TV&C grade east of Brookside Road. This section was climbing from Rushford to Summit. I forgot my camera so I do not have any pics.

The grade was in good shape and easy to find. An exDL&W/EL/CR/CSX engineer lives right next to the grade.

I have permission to go back in 2 weeks and get pics.
Attachments
TV&CTimetableMileage.png
TV&C Timetable
rushfordsummit.jpg
Map of the TV&C from Fish lake to Rushford
thebigham
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:27 pm
Location: Arcade, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby RussNelson » Sat May 13, 2017 9:52 pm

If that map is right, then there ought to be a culvert or somesuch just north of NY-243. There's a little creek there that it crossed.
User avatar
RussNelson
 
Posts: 3786
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:20 am
Location: Potsdam, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby RussNelson » Sat May 13, 2017 10:02 pm

thebigham wrote:I've attached the TV&C survey map and a 1939 aerial photo that has a faint yellow line where my friend thinks the TV&C grade was.

I agree with the yellow line on the aerial photo.
User avatar
RussNelson
 
Posts: 3786
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:20 am
Location: Potsdam, NY

Re: TV&C from Sandusky to Cuba

Postby thebigham » Sun May 14, 2017 2:56 pm

^That was the grade I found in the pics above.

I'm going to Brookside Road this week to take pics!
thebigham
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:27 pm
Location: Arcade, NY

PreviousNext

Return to Arcade & Attica Railroad

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest