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Arcade and Attica related: B&S crossing of the PRR in arcade

Postby JT76 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:54 am

I figured this would be a decent place to post my question...

I was at my friend's shop this past weekend (He owns Muscle Car Alley adjacent to the old PRR main on Rule st by the A&A/BP jct.) Took a walk down the B&P to the bridge and another short trek up the A&A.. i could find no evidence of where the B&S left the current A&A main. The bridge over the Catt creek is obviously a replacement but i could find no evidence in that area either.. About how far from the creek did the B&S go under the PRR? where should i look next time? When was the current catt creek bridge built?
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Re: Arcade and Attica related: B&S crossing of the PRR in ar

Postby BSOR Patarak » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:02 pm

It appears to me to be about 30 feet south of the current bridge. There is an excellent photo that belongs to the Arcade Historical Society in the later editions of Pietrak's B&S Book on page 146. It clearly shows the old PRR bridge and the under pass of the B&S. There is a train blocking the south abutment to the PRR creek bridge, so it is only a guess on the distance.

From the existing A&A R.O.W. looking north on the B&S, the tracks would have been perfectly straight going under the Pennsy. Below is a shot taken last week looking in that direction, but as you can see, it is extremely overgrown and you can't even see the PRR grade.

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I also walked in to see if anything remains. I could see no mound or evidence from the top side. There is however a concrete box structure that looks to me would have been between the PRR abutment and the B&S underpass. In clippings from Arcade Herald newspapers from the era of B&S construction, there was mention that the B&S had to relocate the pump house on the PRR to build the underpass. It was mentioned that concrete for the new structure was mixed on site by B&S contractors. Below is a view of that.

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There is a picture of the original PRR bridge over the Cattaraugus Creek in the Triumph VII PRR book on page 297. It is taken from such a view point that you can't tell much from it. Here is a photo of the current bridge.

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When I look at Google Earth, there is a lot of growth in the images. If you follow the A&A line straight toward the PRR, you can see a line going straight under and to the back of the property that you mentioned. The B&S was low there and not on much of a mound. It appeared to be pretty close to creek. Following under the PRR to the Hurdville Road (still going north), the tracks would have crossed just to the creek side of the Cement Plant driveway. From what I saw walking around this time of year, there was just too much growth to locate any kind of mound. The underpass under the PRR was obviously filled in, so I doubt any wing walls or abutments still exist there.

I am sorry that I didn't post copies of a couple of the pictures I referenced, but I don't own them or have decent copies to work from. Hopefully this helps you a little.

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Re: Arcade and Attica related: B&S crossing of the PRR in ar

Postby JT76 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:42 pm

fantastic! Thanks for the response. I will do some more poking around next time i am out there, as you said this time of year is extremely tough with the dense undergrowth.
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