Grade crossing removal thread (public thourougfares)

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Re: Grade crossing removal thread (public thourougfares)

Postby ExCon90 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:59 pm

Myrtone wrote:It seems that a lot of money that could have been spent on grade crossing removals was instead spent on freeways.

Too sadly true.
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Re: Grade crossing removal thread (public thourougfares)

Postby Myrtone » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:03 pm

Let's consider at-grade crossings on double and multi-track lines? Could all such crossings in California have been removed for only a fraction of the total price of all the Los Angeles freeways?

I would imagine that L.I.R.R upgrade (including the grade crossing removals) is costing only a fraction of what the New York state thruway cost in today's dollars.
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Re: Grade crossing removal thread (public thourougfares)

Postby Myrtone » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:54 am

Here's what to try telling NIMBYs; Would you rather that the railway be elevated and that you don't have to wait for a train before passing under the viaduct, or would you rather that it be at ground level and you wait for trains before you cross?
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Re: Grade crossing removal thread (public thourougfares)

Postby Passenger » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:03 pm

Myrtone wrote:Here's what to try telling NIMBYs; Would you rather that the railway be elevated and that you don't have to wait for a train before passing under the viaduct, or would you rather that it be at ground level and you wait for trains before you cross?


Tell that to the "NIMBY" whose house gets confiscated.
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Re: Grade crossing removal thread (public thourougfares)

Postby Passenger » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:04 pm

ExCon90 wrote:
Myrtone wrote:It seems that a lot of money that could have been spent on grade crossing removals was instead spent on freeways.

Too sadly true.


Any grade crossings on those freeways? No?



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Re: Grade crossing removal thread (public thourougfares)

Postby Myrtone » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:43 pm

But lots of money and resources that could have been put into grade separating crossings with existing roads was instead put into building more roads, such as freeways, many of which do cross railways. Of course freeways cross railways only on different levels. And a lot of money that could be spent on grade separations that do unlock capacity was instead put into building new railways elsewhere.
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Re: Grade crossing removal thread (public thourougfares)

Postby LastStopValhalla » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:30 pm

Myrtone wrote:Here's what to try telling NIMBYs; Would you rather that the railway be elevated and that you don't have to wait for a train before passing under the viaduct, or would you rather that it be at ground level and you wait for trains before you cross?


RE: NIMBYs and "property confiscation":

It depends on the crossing. Roaring Brook Road requires no eminent domain on the west side, since it is NY State land associated with the Saw Mill Parkway. To the east, some undeveloped land owned by the Chappaqua Crossing project may need to be purchased, however, that section does not contain any private or business-owned structures.
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Re: Grade crossing removal thread (public thourougfares)

Postby Myrtone » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:43 pm

But surely a ground level railway could be replaced by an elevated one above the same alignment without demolishing any buildings.
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