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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby SST » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:50 pm

Great photo!
may I use that pic on my Roundhouse webpage?
(I will put your name and date on it!

just FYI, thats not the Westshore Roundhouse..thats the Pullman Company roundhouse..
which was never owned by the NYC..the NYC-Westshore roundhouse no longer exists..


By all means, you can use the photo and thanks for the correction as to the original owner of the roundhouse.

I may have seen the wall to the Gardenville pit but not realizing that that's what it was. Perhaps a revisit in the spring is necessary.
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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby scottychaos » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:07 am

SST wrote:
Great photo!
may I use that pic on my Roundhouse webpage?
(I will put your name and date on it!

just FYI, thats not the Westshore Roundhouse..thats the Pullman Company roundhouse..
which was never owned by the NYC..the NYC-Westshore roundhouse no longer exists..


By all means, you can use the photo and thanks for the correction as to the original owner of the roundhouse.

I may have seen the wall to the Gardenville pit but not realizing that that's what it was. Perhaps a revisit in the spring is necessary.


thanks! :P
I will add it to the section for the Pullman roundhouse when I get to it..
(im planning to add a "data sheet" type thing for each existing roundhouse..all known stats, photos if available, maps..etc)

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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby scottychaos » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:07 am

The start of the webpage is up!

http://gold.mylargescale.com/scottychao ... index.html

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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby scottychaos » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:33 am

Long Island Railroad has a working Turntable and Roundhouse at the Morris Park Shops, Richmond Hill NY.
40.696667470792086 -73.82284521950618

There was once a second turntable (TT only) nearby, no longer visable.
viewtopic.php?f=63&t=54803&p=587884
40.69740889648623 -73.8215899698763

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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby scottychaos » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:47 am

Railroad Museum of Long Island has a turntable bridge, and they are planning on eventually building a working turntable:

http://www.rmli.us/RMLI/Riverhead_Site.html

The bridge is from the Grand Trunk-CN turntable at Fort Erie, Ontario and was once owned by the Arcade & Attica,
who had plans for the bridge but never used it.

The RMLI dies not yet have a turntable pit..I think they are going to build one from scratch.

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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby nydepot » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:52 am

I'd really put it in as Wagner Sleeping Car. It was only Pullman much later after Pullman bought everyone out. And then it quickly became NYC car shops.

There are Pullman facilities in other cities but not everyone has a Wagner facility.

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scottychaos wrote:I will add it to the section for the Pullman roundhouse when I get to it..
(im planning to add a "data sheet" type thing for each existing roundhouse..all known stats, photos if available, maps..etc)

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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby nydepot » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:55 am

Page 15 of Pietrak's PS&N book shows the turntable at Angelica, 1893. Not sure when it disappeared. After Angelica was rebuilt from the fire? When the PS&N was formed?

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erie2937 wrote:There is no evidence that the PS&N ever owned a turntable. Even at Angelica and Saint Marys a wye was used to turn engines.
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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby nydepot » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:56 am

Page 148 of Pietrak's B&S book shows a map of Blasdell with the B&S TT. No engine house. It mentions using the SB for that.

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BSOR Patarak wrote:B&S at Buffalo - I believe that they used the South Buffalo roundhouse and did not build their own there.
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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby nydepot » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:16 am

Erie Mt. Morris TT only
42.718579,-77.868583

PRR Nunda TT only
42.581676,-77.942784

NY&P Canisteo TT only (p 122 of Pietrak's book)

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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby pablo » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:17 am

As per Charles, Jamestown had two:

1. Former B&SW, then Erie.
2. Former JC&LE, then JW&NW, then Erie.

My suspicion is that number 2 was the last of the two left, but that's only a guess, since the Erie was using it into the 1950's...and until Charles was kind enough to provide the info, I never knew the B&SW one existed.

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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby tree68 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:39 am

scottychaos wrote:The start of the webpage is up!

http://gold.mylargescale.com/scottychao ... index.html

thanks,
Scot

Very nice!

A resource to go along with the stations website!
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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby fordhamroad » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:46 am

-Croton at one time had roundhouses. I believe the last working roundhouse on Metro North was at North White plains. Can anyone recall the year it was torn down?
-On the old New Haven lines, Harlem River formerly had roundhouses. There was also one at old New Rochelle Yard, early 20th century.

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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby Lehighton_Man » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:02 pm

Scott,

To add to your LIRR collection:

LIRR - Oyster Bay; Lat - ??? Long - ???

Historic, TT only. Still Visible on Bing.
See Here: http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qtc6pw8w5bs6&scene=7950449&lvl=2&sty=b&where1=Oyster%20Bay%2C%20NY

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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby nydepot » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:30 pm

Gardenville correction for Scot:

NYC - Buffalo (Gardenville) - (RH+TT) -42°52'40.63N,78°44'27.05W, (RH foundations visible)
NYC - Buffalo (Gardenville) - (RH+TT) (there was a large and a small roundhouse at Gardenville)

should be
NYC - Buffalo (Gardenville) - (RH+TT) 42.880495,-78.74146 (RH foundations visible)
NYC - Buffalo (Gardenville) - (RH+TT) 42°52'40.63N,78°44'27.05W, small roundhouse

The two were mixed up with coord.

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Re: New York State Roundhouses

Postby nydepot » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:33 pm

NY&H Chatham

Should be NYC. NY&H is the New York & Harlem.

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