Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby Bigt » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:36 am

"Cheap, Sleazy, Xpletive" (CSX...as a friend calls them) pulls this stunt every few years by
putting this line up for sale. I don't really think they have ever been that enthused by owning
it. They put money into only when they had to, or, when they thought there was going to be a
boom in stack train business. From what I have seen, judging by the trains I have seen, the latter
business has been dismal. Maybe I am wrong, but, that is the way I see it.

This line could be viable with an owner that "wanted" to make it so. And, for any type of economic
growth up here we must have rail service.
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby nickstowell » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:14 pm

Today the Watertown local had come down to Lacona. It had 3 units and a boxcar. Not sure why or how often they run with 3 units.
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby tree68 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:34 pm

nickstowell wrote:Today the Watertown local had come down to Lacona. It had 3 units and a boxcar. Not sure why or how often they run with 3 units.

Back up power?

I've seen them pull a military train out of Drum (40 cars, more or less) with a single GP38-2...
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby lvrr325 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:03 am

Probably something came up and was dropped and the power is returning more or less light.

Seems like lately the trains have all had a lot of power on them, maybe in case they get hit by a heavy storm.
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby Ironhorse27 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:22 pm

lvrr325 wrote:Probably something came up and was dropped and the power is returning more or less light.

Seems like lately the trains have all had a lot of power on them, maybe in case they get hit by a heavy storm.


How are the traffic counts these days? Still two through trains with the Watertown local?
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby tree68 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:46 am

Ironhorse27 wrote:How are the traffic counts these days? Still two through trains with the Watertown local?

Managed to hear all three on the air yesterday, they're still running.
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby lvrr325 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:06 pm

At least two
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby sd80mac » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:21 pm

down to only 3???
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby lvrr325 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:54 pm

One's going by right now.

I think they combine some of the trains, we've seen a couple go in and out with six engines and a lot of cars. Seems like all of them mix stacks and general freight, too.
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby sd80mac » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:00 pm

I know that Hunter cancelled the train btwn Altanta and Montreal. But do we still have train from west?

I understood that New Baltimore intermodal is back into business now for couple of weeks.
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby tree68 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:36 pm

sd80mac wrote:down to only 3???

Q620 and Q621 are the through trains.

There are locals out of Watertown and Massena, and I think Woodard.
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby lvrr325 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:22 am

Five trains went by here between like 2:00 PM and 7:00 PM. Two down, three up. None were the Woodard local, he gets one unit, these all had multiple units.
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby joha107 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:35 pm

Q192 and Q193 were eliminated several months ago, everything got consolidated into two trains, Q621 and Q620. Alcoa unit trains were also dropped, the ore traffic is back to moving on Q621 and Q620, traffic levels are still about the same, they just are using less trains to move it all. I think the reasoning behind using 4 locomotives on Q621 and Q620 is that they split/combine the CN traffic and Beauharnois/intermodal traffic at Massena and run different trains like normal between Massena and Canada.

Not sure about the future for intermodal, especially with the potential sale of everything North of Syracuse.
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby sd80mac » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:23 am

joha107 wrote:Q192 and Q193 were eliminated several months ago, everything got consolidated into two trains, Q621 and Q620. Alcoa unit trains were also dropped, the ore traffic is back to moving on Q621 and Q620, traffic levels are still about the same, they just are using less trains to move it all. I think the reasoning behind using 4 locomotives on Q621 and Q620 is that they split/combine the CN traffic and Beauharnois/intermodal traffic at Massena and run different trains like normal between Massena and Canada.

Not sure about the future for intermodal, especially with the potential sale of everything North of Syracuse.


thanks for update...
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Re: Trains on CSX St. Lawrence Sub (CR's Montreal Secondary)

Postby lvrr325 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:14 pm

Pretty sure I am seeing at least two pairs of trains go by each day. Probably more, since I don't watch 24/7.
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