Strates Circus Train Status in New York

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Re: When will Strates Carnival Train depart Hamburg/Buffalo?

Postby map193 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:16 am

Charlie,
I think the NYS fair stopped using Strates last year or the year before.
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Re: When will Strates Carnival Train depart Hamburg/Buffalo?

Postby jurtz » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:16 am

This is the first year (in a long time) that Strates will not be at the NYS Fair.
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Re: When will Strates Carnival Train depart Hamburg/Buffalo?

Postby BR&P » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:16 am

charlie6017 wrote:Sorry if I missed this somewhere else, but the circus train is heading south? Not going to the NY State Fair this year?

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Re: When will Strates Carnival Train depart Hamburg/Buffalo?

Postby charlie6017 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:02 am

Thanks guys.......yeah, I had forgotten about that thread. Bummer!

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Re: When will Strates Carnival Train depart Hamburg/Buffalo?

Postby BSOR Patarak » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:33 pm

Train is all loaded, awaiting NS to set up crews and power for it. Will stay in Hamburg until they are ready for it.
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Re: When will Strates Carnival Train depart Hamburg/Buffalo?

Postby Otto Vondrak » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:50 pm

BSOR Patarak wrote:Train is all loaded, awaiting NS to set up crews and power for it. Will stay in Hamburg until they are ready for it.


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Re: When will Strates Carnival Train depart Hamburg/Buffalo?

Postby Matt Langworthy » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:41 pm

BSOR Patarak wrote:Train is all loaded, awaiting NS to set up crews and power for it. Will stay in Hamburg until they are ready for it.


Thank you, sir. Are the WNYRHS cars going to be moved by the same train?
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Re: When will Strates Carnival Train depart Hamburg/Buffalo?

Postby BSOR Patarak » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:53 pm

No, no WNYRHS cars. They have no where to move them yet. We will try again tomorrow to move Strates to buffalo.
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Re: When will Strates Carnival Train depart Hamburg/Buffalo?

Postby DutchRailnut » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:06 am

from train orders.com:

JAMES E. STRATES CARNIVAL TRAIN – 08/20/2014
We have received word that Norfolk Southern is unable to accept the JES Carnival Train until Wednesday (20 August 2014).

Buffalo Southern will begin assembling the consist at 08:00 AM EDT Wednesday.

After completing the standard air brake test, they will haul the train to Buffalo, NY and hand it off to Norfolk Southern.

Scheduled departure from Buffalo, NY on Norfolk Southern System to be determined (TBD) by operating/transportation officials involved with the Strates Train movement.

All we have received for this Post Time – 08:33 AM EDT, 08/20/14
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Re: When will Strates Carnival Train depart Hamburg/Buffalo?

Postby sd80mac » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:40 pm

through Ronakes, VA at about 10 45 am today with NS catfish and ex SOO (hlcx or glcx)

tried to attached pic but rejected... oh well..
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Question re Strates Shows diner

Postby BR&P » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:03 pm

Looking for a couple pics of a Strates Show dining car which sat derelict in Rochester Yard for a couple years in the late 60's. I had thought that car was at Syracuse until recently, but a look at the CNYRRHS web site under "past projects" appears the car they had was a sleeper or bedroom car. Can anybody clarify this? I'm looking for an outside photo, and also one of the food locker inside the car near the blind end. Thanks!
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Re: Question re Strates Shows diner

Postby lvrr325 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:49 am

CNYRHS still owns "Syracuse" which is a 3 bedroom-buffet-drawing room-lounge-solarium car, originally the Palm Lane. While they, or chapter members, owned various diners, none were Strates cars.
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Re: Question re Strates Shows diner

Postby BR&P » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:39 am

OK, thanks. I guess my memory is finally going. I sure thought I was in the diner at the fairgrounds one year.
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Re: Question re Strates Shows diner

Postby lvrr325 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:35 pm

As far as I know, until they replaced the Palm Lane/Syracuse with the D&RGW business car that train was basically the same going back to the last time the D&H coach was used on excursions in like 1980.
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Re: Question re Strates Shows diner

Postby BR&P » Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:56 pm

The car I'm thinking of was in the Strates Shows train when they pulled the draft gear out of it. This would be 1967. I don't know whether it was so old they could not find a replacement, or if there was a dispute between the railroad and the carnival about who would pay for it.

At any rate, it sat on track 2 Coach on the north side of Goodman Street Yard, at the far end of the track except for the old NYC&HRRR steam crane (which IIRC eventually was half off the end of the track.) I believe it was still there in mid 1968.

One half had tables and chairs, I seem to recall the carpet was red, and gaudy circus-type lettering for the menu. The other half was a kitchen. Vestibule on the eating end, none on the kitchen end.

Like I said, I *thought* that was the car the Syracuse group had but apparently not. The thing was getting vandalized so it's possible it was cut up for scrap. If it had been preserved, somebody would probably know about it and it would show up on a web page somewhere.
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