Railroads near or in sight of the NYS Thruway

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Re: Railroads near or in sight of the NYS Thruway

Postby RussNelson » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:29 pm

glenfieldwestern wrote:Russ,
Thank you for answering the question and providing the info that recent flooding in the area had caused the abutment to fail. Your photo really underscores the extent of the damage. It looked like welders were cutting the bridge apart when I passed by on the Thruway on Saturday but at highway speed it was hard to know for sure.

GW

FYI, they were able to save half the railroad bridge, so the other half is now a relatively lightweight road vehicle bridge.
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Re: Railroads near or in sight of the NYS Thruway

Postby RussNelson » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:16 am

Mike Noble of Syracuse found a WWII-era spur crossing the Thruway before it was built. It's barely visible on the northern side. Right here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0934535 ... 312!8i6656

LAT,LONG,ORIGINAL,CROSSING,LOCATION,T-WAY MP,STATUS,CURRENT USE,NOTES
43.0934434,-76.1277767,NYC spur going to a military facility,,West of Townline Rd.,280.9,abandoned,built for WWII
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Re: Railroads near or in sight of the NYS Thruway

Postby sd80mac » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:49 pm

RussNelson wrote:Mike Noble of Syracuse found a WWII-era spur crossing the Thruway before it was built. It's barely visible on the northern side. Right here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0934535 ... 312!8i6656

LAT,LONG,ORIGINAL,CROSSING,LOCATION,T-WAY MP,STATUS,CURRENT USE,NOTES
43.0934434,-76.1277767,NYC spur going to a military facility,,West of Townline Rd.,280.9,abandoned,built for WWII


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Re: Railroads near or in sight of the NYS Thruway

Postby ctclark1 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:32 pm

Appears to be very short lived. Looking at Historic Aerials, it does not show up on any topo maps before or after the Thruway was built (1947 & 1960) and while it is more easily visible in the 1956 aerial photo, it looks to have already been severed from the mainline by the Thruway.

Also, the area it leads into is labeled as the Marine Corps Reserve Training Center on the topos, even in the aerial available from '56 it doesn't appear to extend as far north as the the air base
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Re: Railroads near or in sight of the NYS Thruway

Postby trainsinmaine » Fri May 11, 2018 2:01 pm

RussNelson wrote:
trainsinmaine wrote: It is difficult, though, to find traces east of East Chatham, where the Berkshire extension of the New York Thruway has leveled most of the roadbed.

A little bit of snow helps a lot. I saw the railbed a month ago when there was light snow on the ground between the place where the railbed crosses the Thruway, and Columbia County CR-5. Went back on Thursday and went looking where the snow was. The traces continue north of CR-5, first on a fill, which has a "B 165" milepost lying down on it, then through a cut, about 20' deep. I went to the next road intersection, New Concord Road, and saw nothing. My guess is that it's underneath I-90 at that point.


Russ, I went to that spot this past Monday. The leaves hadn't yet emerged from the trees, so I could see quite a bit just from the eastbound lane of the Thruway. The roadbed was plainly evident near the aforementioned CR-5; indeed, I could even see the cut. I eventually got onto CR-5 and crossed the Thruway, with the hope that I might be able to access the roadbed on foot.

On the north side, it didn't appear possible (a gap had been created in the process of road construction), and on the south side I surmised that I might have to enter through private property. As I had an appointment pending, I didn't have the time to pursue it. I did, however, travel down the Pleasant Valley Road to the point where it abuts the Thruway, and I found the spot where the roadbed crosses the bog on the north side of the road before it begins the arc toward the current B&A. It's barely discernible, but there is a tree line along it.

If you go to the Google Maps site for that area and click onto the satellite image, you'll find that there is a secondary road that heads south off CR-5 just west of the aforesaid crossing with the old roadbed. It heads toward, then roughly parallels, the Thruway for a short distance. I'm wondering if it joins the roadbed at one point before the roadbed crosses the Thruway. It looks like it might. One wouldn't be able to tell without traveling it.

Lots of interesting history around there!
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Re: Railroads near or in sight of the NYS Thruway

Postby trainsinmaine » Fri May 11, 2018 5:30 pm

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