Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

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Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby siliconwafer » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:18 am

The media is full of reports regarding Tonawanda Coke. If the plant shuts down, what impact will that have on WNY rail operations? I am assuming they receive coal via rail and ship coke, their product, via rail as well.
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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby Otto Vondrak » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:29 am

siliconwafer wrote:The media is full of reports regarding Tonawanda Coke. If the plant shuts down, what impact will that have on WNY rail operations? I am assuming they receive coal via rail and ship coke, their product, via rail as well.


The coke trains that go to Tonawanda are actually destined for a customer in Ontario that has no transload faciliy. The coal is trucked from Tonawanda to Ontario. Even if Tonawanda Coke shuts down, the unloading facility may remain active for that seasonal operation (otherwise they get their supply by boat during the regular shipping season). Time will tell.

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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby nydepot » Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:16 pm

Yes, they get in coal and ship coke. There will also be a bunch of critters needing a new home. That place has had quite a run of bad luck since they started, including a fire, I think.
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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby siliconwafer » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:07 pm

Tonawanda Coke is in the process of shutting down and has filed bankruptcy as reported by local media. One less rail customer? Does anyone have any insight into how this would affect rail operations in the area?
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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby Matt Langworthy » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:33 pm

Did the plant shut down yet?
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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby pumpers » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:19 pm

Matt Langworthy wrote:Did the plant shut down yet?

I guess we can change the name of the thread from "shutdown looming" to "has shutdown" (as of yesterday, Monday 10/15/18)
https://buffalonews.com/2018/10/16/tona ... ankruptcy/
the last of the 30 coke ovens that were in operation at the site were shut down on Monday, the state Department of Environmental Conservation said. Workers will continue purging the site's extensive system of gas lines and cooling its battery ovens throughout the week, the agency said.
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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby mowingman » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:01 pm

I wonder if this will affect Erie Coke also? Erie Coke is part of the same company that owns Tonawanda Coke.
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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby mkirsch » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:57 am

Only if they're in violation of the environmental regulations, as Tonawanda allegedly was.

Maybe they aren't, and can shift operations there.
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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby pumpers » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:52 pm

The article says Tonawanda Coke is bankrupt. Don't know how that relates to Erie Coke , if their parent is bankrupt too, ...
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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby SST » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:41 am

I had the opportunity a couple of years ago to put my boat into a slip just down the street from Tonawanda Coke. Fortunately, the wind was just right that the fumes from the plant crossed over the marina. Needless to say, I didn't put my boat there.

But it is a shame that another plant from the old days is going under. I would hope that somebody would try and save the infrastructure and turn it into a tour site. Show the people how this "thing" worked. Last year, I went to PIttsburgh and took the tour of the Carrie Furnace. It was amazing and learned quite a bit about it and how it worked. See their site: https://www.riversofsteel.com/preservat ... -furnaces/


But this is Buffalo and we bulldoze everything. Lets see, we flattened Hanna Furnace, almost all of Bethlehem Steel [Locomotive repair shop still standing]. I'm sure Ton. Coke will get the axe too.
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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby sd80mac » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:34 pm

There's 2 plants by the river and that's all I can find. I would say the south one is coal plant and north one is coke. But I looked at material inside hopper car and they're large chunks size. Isn't coke suppose to be rolled up balls like ore??

and North one is not really large building.. What are they making at there??
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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby scottychaos » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:18 pm

nydepot wrote:Yes, they get in coal and ship coke. There will also be a bunch of critters needing a new home. That place has had quite a run of bad luck since they started, including a fire, I think.


Recent Google Earth imagery shows an EMD SW-something, probably OOS, and two working GE centercab switchers.

There was an Alco S3 there a decade ago:

https://scotlawrence.github.io/NYalcos/index.html
viewtopic.php?f=128&t=61477

But I see no sign of it now..

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Re: Tonawanda Coke shutdown looming

Postby nydepot » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:59 pm

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S-3 #1976 Alco c/n 80290 (derelict, missing)
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