Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby Benjamin Maggi » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:05 am

I am modeling a very small portion of the D&H, but even in those 15-20 miles there is way to much to put on a layout. So I am building it in sections ("Layout Design Elements") slowly, with the idea that I can always expand and add more sections as time/space/money allow. I highly recommend it.
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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby BR&P » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:08 am

Well, I debated whether to put this pic here. We have several threads over the past few years about Charlotte and OP of this one asks about 1970-1980's, which this does not fit. But hopefully nobody will object if I wind the clock back to 1955. Here's a shot by the late William Hollingsworth, from my collection. It's taken from in front of the depot, looking north along River Street. And it gives you a pretty good look at the North Yard which at that time had either 5 or 6 tracks. The plows and flanger are on 2,3, and 4 in the North Yard. Hard to believe that today there is no rail activity left at Charlotte at all. :(

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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby BR&P » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:20 pm

So you don't care about 1955? All right, I won't post any more of those. Here's 1975.

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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby BR&P » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:21 pm

And two more:

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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby RailKevin » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:01 pm

1975--so that makes it a Penn Central train?

Not to go too far off-topic...

The third photo appears to be the diamond of a track that curved past the lighthouse and went directly up to the bridge. Wasn't there another diamond that went from the north yard, across the RWO, and into the old foundry? If so, it must have gone up-grade, across the RWO, and down-grade to the foundry?

I am also curious about the freight car trucks. Are those considered friction bearing or roller bearing?
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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby charlie6017 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:37 pm

DRB,

Those are some great photos, including that shot from 1955. I could look at those pics all day long! 😎

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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby CPSmith » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:40 pm

RailKevin wrote:1975--so that makes it a Penn Central train?

Not to go too far off-topic...

The third photo appears to be the diamond of a track that curved past the lighthouse and went directly up to the bridge. Wasn't there another diamond that went from the north yard, across the RWO, and into the old foundry? If so, it must have gone up-grade, across the RWO, and down-grade to the foundry?

I am also curious about the freight car trucks. Are those considered friction bearing or roller bearing?


I'm surprised BR&P hasn't replied - he must be taking a nap.

Yes, it is a PC train. Yes, there was another diamond, one that allowed today's Charlotte branch to cross the Hojack at an almost 90 degree angle. The historical aerials website (my only source at the moment) shows the trackage there in a 1933 map, but gone in a 1951 aerial photo. And finally, yes, those are friction bearing trucks. Roller bearings gradually replaced friction bearings for two major reasons: 1) roller bearings provide less rolling resistance, so motive power can be reduced for any given application (the proverbial "do more with less"); and 2) roller bearings require significantly less maintenance than friction bearings.
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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby BR&P » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:26 pm

No, not taking a nap, spent a couple days at our other place near DL&W Jct, even saw R&S head south early this afternoon and just got home. No computer out there so CPS graciously answered your questions on my behalf. Image

I seem to recall the blast furnace shut down fairly early in the 1900's. I'm sure there were other industries down there and so cannot say when the diamond across the Hojack was removed. It is possible it was actually removed in the 1920's and the map CPS mentions had not been updated yet. But at this point I have nothing to indicate that was actually the case.
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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby Otto Vondrak » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:19 pm

BR&P wrote:Well, I debated whether to put this pic here. We have several threads over the past few years about Charlotte and OP of this one asks about 1970-1980's, which this does not fit. But hopefully nobody will object if I wind the clock back to 1955. Here's a shot by the late William Hollingsworth, from my collection.


Really neat stuff, thanks for sharing your collection with us!

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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby BR&P » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:46 pm

Otto Vondrak wrote:Really neat stuff, thanks for sharing your collection with us!

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Despite the first one being outside the OP's requested time frame, I didn't think there would be too many objections! :wink:
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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby BR&P » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:55 am

OK, another shot from William Hollingsworth, this one taken in 1951. The thought occurs that the crossing to get to the foundry must have run up a heck of a ramp, and then down the other side. Obviously the swing bridge abutments were fixed in height so the diamonds must have been at the RW&O level.

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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby charlie6017 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:59 pm

BR&P wrote:OK, another shot from William Hollingsworth, this one taken in 1951. The thought occurs that the crossing to get to the foundry must have run up a heck of a ramp, and then down the other side. Obviously the swing bridge abutments were fixed in height so the diamonds must have been at the RW&O level.

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This is a fabulous shot. Interesting the guard rail on the sharp curve. Never noticed something like this before, but I
would think it's wise as I'm sure the local boat owners wouldn't be happy to see cars string-lined into their pleasure craft. 😛

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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby BR&P » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:56 pm

Actually that rail would tend to keep the wheel toward the inside rail, and presumably resist the forcing of the outside rail into a wide-gauge situation.
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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby turntable01 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:11 am

Adding to the conversation... I used to get around Charlotte in the 1970s and 1980s. My grandfather worked at the blast furnace in the early 1900s, and his younger brother worked on the swingbridge. Their father was a brakeman on the NYC/RW&O east out of Charlotte. I added a view of the interchange between the B&O Belt Line and the PC west yards for you.
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Re: Looking for photos of Charlotte - 1970s-1980s

Postby BR&P » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:51 pm

Some good pics in that link - thanks! Image
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