Single track Chicago Line?

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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby tree68 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:36 am

BR&P wrote: It likely won't succeed, may or may not be attempted, but I firmly believe it's at least been discussed, considered and evaluated in various levels of CSX.

I would opine that it's been discussed at lower levels only because it's come from "upstairs." Those who actually run the trains know better.

Somewhat related question someone may be able to answer - was the "Mainline of Mid-America" (IC/ICG) single tracked before or after EHH"
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby Matt Langworthy » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:05 am

Having worked for a large corporation, I wondering if this study (assuming it actually exists!) was perhaps initiated by a mid-level manager or accountant at CSX, rather than upper management. An eavesdropping employee could have had a brief glimpse of a document, meeting or E-mail regarding the Chicago Line study without fully understanding what he/she was looking at... or even who authored the study. This whole scenario could easily be a case of office gossip run amuck, IMO. The study might not have even been seen by the top brass at CSX.
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby RMB357 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:45 am

The Illinois Central was single tracked by then President Ed Moyer's, between 1989 and 1991. He also cut payroll and sold off excess rolling stock. Hunter Harrison was I believe Chief operations officer under Moyer's and then took over in 1993 as CEO.
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby Otto Vondrak » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:26 pm

BR&P wrote:I realize TRAINS is the "other guys" for you, but I'd say Frailey's discussion indicates it's more than an internet hoax. It likely won't succeed, may or may not be attempted, but I firmly believe it's at least been discussed, considered and evaluated in various levels of CSX.


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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby sd80mac » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:19 am

Couple years ago, we were getting exciting about state putting in couple of 3rd tracks....
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby BR&P » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:09 am

EHH says it's fake news, everything is fine. Probably just about what the captain of the Titanic announced soon after hitting the iceberg! :P

From PROGRESSIVE RAILROADING:

CSX President and Chief Executive Officer E. Hunter Harrison has fired back at a coalition of rail-shipper trade associations that complained to Congress about rail-service disruptions as the Class I implements a restructuring aimed at improving efficiency.

In a letter sent Wednesday to the Rail Customer Coalition (RCC), Harrison said CSX was disappointed at the "many unfounded and grossly exaggerated statements" the group has made about CSX's service performance as the Class I implements precision scheduled railroading.
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby Wayside » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:59 am

Mr. Harrison's history is one of pushing the envelope to extremes and trying things that even the most knowledgeable and experienced of management personnel would reject out of hand. I have acquaintances at both CN/IC and CP who either got with the program (and became believers) or got flushed because they failed to do so. A bunch of CSX superintendents found out right quick that he meant what he said about how things were changing.

I would expect that CSX will experiment with taking portions of one of the Chicago Line tracks OOS just to see what it does to traffic and service, then adjust or expand as necessary.
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby newpylong » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:47 am

He will canned before too long.
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby Wayside » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:55 am

newpylong wrote:He will canned before too long.


And he got a 100 ton hopper load of money up front.
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby johnpbarlow » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:19 am

newpylong wrote:He will canned before too long.


By whom? Mantle Ridge has made huge gains based on EHH's arrival that they can't realize for 5 years. They (and EHH) look to be in it for the long haul...

http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/3744573/asset-management-hedge-funds-and-alternatives/mantle-ridge-up-to-nearly-2-billion-on-csx-play.html
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby tree68 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:37 am

johnpbarlow wrote:
newpylong wrote:He will canned before too long.


By whom? Mantle Ridge has made huge gains based on EHH's arrival that they can't realize for 5 years. They (and EHH) look to be in it for the long haul...

http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/3744573/asset-management-hedge-funds-and-alternatives/mantle-ridge-up-to-nearly-2-billion-on-csx-play.html

The way they're going, CSX may not last that long.

But maybe that's their plan.
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby sd80mac » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:37 pm

johnpbarlow wrote:
newpylong wrote:He will canned before too long.


By whom? Mantle Ridge has made huge gains based on EHH's arrival that they can't realize for 5 years. They (and EHH) look to be in it for the long haul...

http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/3744573/asset-management-hedge-funds-and-alternatives/mantle-ridge-up-to-nearly-2-billion-on-csx-play.html



Cant open.. Bad link??? Can anyone else open this link?
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby tree68 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:47 pm

sd80mac wrote:Can't open.. Bad link??? Can anyone else open this link?

Worked for me.

Try a copy and paste into the address bar.
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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby sd80mac » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:58 pm

tree68 wrote:
sd80mac wrote:Can't open.. Bad link??? Can anyone else open this link?

Worked for me.

Try a copy and paste into the address bar.


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Re: Single track Chicago Line?

Postby newpylong » Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:21 pm

johnpbarlow wrote:
newpylong wrote:He will canned before too long.


By whom? Mantle Ridge has made huge gains based on EHH's arrival that they can't realize for 5 years. They (and EHH) look to be in it for the long haul...

http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/3744573/asset-management-hedge-funds-and-alternatives/mantle-ridge-up-to-nearly-2-billion-on-csx-play.html


By a proxy vote before there is nothing left of that railroad. Reading that article is sickening.
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