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BR&P wrote:scottychaos wrote:Personally I would not count Avon, Canandaigua or Sodus Point as being part of the Rochester Area..all three are too far out. (none of them are even in Monroe County)
I guess it depends on where you choose to draw the line. The ad for the event says "Steam returns to Rochester" so they're including Industry as part of Rochester. But Avon is ballpark 6 miles farther and that does not count. I suppose "Steam Returns to Monroe County" would leave no doubt.
And I might also note that the good folks at the museum have also missed both the Golden Spike Centennial train which passed through in 1969, and the American Freedom Train which spent several days at the Regional Market in Henrietta in about 1976 give or take - both powered by steam (former NKP and RDG, respectively).
An interesting event none the less and I hope it works well for them.
EDIT - American Freedom Train shows its Rochester visit as May 7 - May 12, 1975. It arrived from Worcester MA and departed for Cleveland OH pulled by former RDG 2101.
Noel Weaver wrote:I think the last regular service steam in Rochester was probably on the B & O moat likely sometime in 1956. The other railroads in this area except for the PRR were fully diesel operated by this time and I think the B & O outlasted the PRR.
Noel Weaver
BR&P wrote:The ad says "Ride behind the first steam engine to operate in our area since 1954!" So while the public could not ride those trips, at least two steam engines did in fact operate in our area. (2 engines, 3 times, since the NKP engine operated live deadheading eastbound a few days before the actual Golden Spike train went west.) The visit of the Viscose engine is a great event, but did you really think you could escape my yanking your chain for your hyperbole?
nydepot wrote:This wasn't to pick on the museum, it was to put some dates to things I've never paid attention to before.
Otto Vondrak wrote:
I get your point, I could add more words to the copy something like, "Ride behind the first steam passenger train to operate in our area since 1954..." I'm not sure the public will make that distinction enough to make it worth it, though. Based on the operation of the DSI switcher and the B&O Perry switcher, I might consider changing the date from 1954 to 1955 if it sounds more accurate. What do you think?
-otto-
lvrr325 wrote:Big print:
"First Steam in Rochester since the 1950s*"
Fine print at bottom:
"* Excursions not included"
Otto Vondrak wrote:BR&P wrote:I guess they don't know that LA&L used to operate steam into Avon, just a few miles away from them, until....late 1970's? OOOPS!
If you really consider Avon, located in Livingston County, to be "Rochester," then you have a very broad and loose interpretation of geography.
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