ID on this signal head?

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ID on this signal head?

Postby lvrr325 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:02 pm

Saw this today at a flea market here in NY, with a local vendor. He didn't know where it came from though. Who had this style of signal, Erie? NKP? It weighs about 84 tons, so I couldn't pick it up to see what manufacturer might be marked on it. But it appears to have been removed and discarded with the guts inside. I don't think it could be PRR, B&O, NYC, or LV.

No idea what this kind of stuff is worth, either.

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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby Noel Weaver » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:09 pm

I think the best one is the Nickel Plate although the Lackawanna may have had some signals of this nature.
Maybe the Lehigh Valley had some signals like this as well.
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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby smph50 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:52 am

Looks just like my Union Switch & Signal R2 that came off the ERIE. Bolt spacing and lens holders are the same. Sun shields are a little small though.

I agree that the NKP used these as well.

If you can roll it over, it should have one hasp on the door and inside R-Y-G 5-1/2 inch lenses, Clear 8 3/8 inch on the outside.

I'd go $200 tops if it does not have any mounting brackets for the mast.

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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby SST » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:16 am

smph50 wrote:Looks just like my Union Switch & Signal R2 that came off the ERIE. Bolt spacing and lens holders are the same. Sun shields are a little small though.

I agree that the NKP used these as well.

If you can roll it over, it should have one hasp on the door and inside R-Y-G 5-1/2 inch lenses, Clear 8 3/8 inch on the outside.

I'd go $200 tops if it does not have any mounting brackets for the mast.

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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby lvrr325 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:47 pm

Yep, it is a US&S unit, I checked it out today as they were loading it.

$200 was their low end, so I passed. It's too heavy for me to even move by myself.
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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby sd80mac » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:44 am

Had to double check with you.... 84 tons????

That's 168,000 lbs... for that piece? No pick-up vehicle can carry or tow that.
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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby Matt Langworthy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:50 am

That's a good point about the weight. An Alco S1 switcher weighs 99 tons and is considerably bigger than a signal. I know a couple of folks who have signals at their respective residences. I don't think they needed any special equipment to move the signals.
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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby scottychaos » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:21 pm

sd80mac wrote:Had to double check with you.... 84 tons????

That's 168,000 lbs... for that piece? No pick-up vehicle can carry or tow that.


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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby sd80mac » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:26 pm

could it be 84 lbs?

Scottychaos... nice try with Hyperbole. that doesn't fall in RR language... sorry.... gotta be accurate.. :P
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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby CPSmith » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:51 pm

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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby lvrr325 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:10 am

You guys try picking it up and tell me what you think it weighs.

It took two guys to put it back on the trailer and it wasn't easy for them.
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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby Matt Langworthy » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:26 am

If 2 guys can lift the signal (albeit with difficulty), the weight is probably hundreds of pounds.
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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby sd80mac » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:44 am

lvrr325 wrote:You guys try picking it up and tell me what you think it weighs.

It took two guys to put it back on the trailer and it wasn't easy for them.


obviously not 84 tons! :P :P :P

for normal 2 people who don't work out... I would say no more than 250 lbs at the most...

USPS and UPS have policy that it requires 2 people to pick up package that is 70 lbs and over.

Conductor carry new knuckles which I believe is 60 lbs. So 250 is good guess for the max. so it would be somewhere around 200 lbs for that
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Re: ID on this signal head?

Postby lvrr325 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:51 pm

Just based on the 200 lb engine block I can pick up and move if I need to, this thing has to be 300 or better.
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