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HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby poppyl » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:25 pm

Does anyone know if the "schedule" for HO6 has changed recently?

The reason for asking is that I caught it southbound going through Dundee a little past 7PM this evening -- two wide cabs with 20 cars in the consist. I've been out of touch with the Secondary for the past couple of months but the last I knew, HO6 came northbound through Dundee pretty predictably around 8PM. If the schedule has changed, this could be important for those of you who like to chase HO6 as the northbound run could be an early afternoon deal.

I'll try to check its schedule over the next couple of days but probably won't be able to get a good handle on it until mid-May. I'm hoping that someone may have some information in the meantime as to whether the schedule has changed.

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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby Matt Langworthy » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:37 am

Thanks for the heads up! As you know, I've chased H06 on 6 trips in recent years. I am planning another trip this year, so any information would be appreciated.

Is it possible that you saw a relief crew bring H06 back? I do recall at least one report on FB about H06 being outlawed recently.
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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby poppyl » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:26 am

Matt Langworthy wrote:Thanks for the heads up! As you know, I've chased H06 on 6 trips in recent years. I am planning another trip this year, so any information would be appreciated.

Is it possible that you saw a relief crew bring H06 back? i do recall at least one report on FB about H06 being outlawed recently.


You may be right, but the few times that I've caught it outlawed, it was sitting just north of Dundee and the relief crew arrived the next morning to run it back to Gang Mills. Southbound at 7PM seemed way out of the ordinary even if it had outlawed the previous night.

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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby CPSD40-2 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:47 am

A friend that lives along the lake said that Tuesday, NS took a southbound of 60+ cars out of Geneva in the middle of the afternoon. An unusual move, but good to see a big train regardless.
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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby poppyl » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:20 am

CPSD40-2 wrote:A friend that lives along the lake said that Tuesday, NS took a southbound of 60+ cars out of Geneva in the middle of the afternoon. An unusual move, but good to see a big train regardless.


Wow, that is unusual. Max that I've ever counted was 50 northbound with 30-40 more the norm. What's also interesting is that we have HO6 southbound in the afternoon/evening two days in a row.

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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby Matt Langworthy » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:45 pm

I guess I'm going to have to keep an eye on the departure time for H06. Thanks, guys.

FWIW, I went back through my notes for H06 chases. Two runs had car counts of 52 and 56, respectively.
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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby poppyl » Mon May 12, 2014 9:13 pm

Not good news for you, Matt. HO6 came through Dundee tonight at about 9:30. I'll track it for a few more days to see if there is a pattern.

Unrelated to this, but there could be some news on the old Dundee Foods situation and/or Himrod Morton site in the near future.

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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby bwparker1 » Tue May 13, 2014 10:47 am

poppyl wrote:Not good news for you, Matt. HO6 came through Dundee tonight at about 9:30. I'll track it for a few more days to see if there is a pattern.

Unrelated to this, but there could be some news on the old Dundee Foods situation and/or Himrod Morton site in the near future.

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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby Matt Langworthy » Tue May 13, 2014 12:21 pm

I have been informed by a trustworthy source that the daytime runs of H06 were a temporary aberration. The train has returned to its usual late afternoon/early evening departure form Gang Mills. In fact, I saw H06 pull onto the Corning Secondary circa 7:15 PM last Friday. A long chase or two could happen next month.
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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby poppyl » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:31 pm

Word is out that a buyer for Dundee Foods may be in the final stages of due diligence before executing the purchase. No more intel to share at this time but something formal is expected within the month.

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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby BR&P » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:23 pm

Do you know whether the buyer is buying "Dundee Foods" as a corporation (with the implication they could resume rail traffic) or is buying the Dundee Foods property, in which case it may or may not require rail?
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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby poppyl » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:10 pm

BR&P wrote:Do you know whether the buyer is buying "Dundee Foods" as a corporation (with the implication they could resume rail traffic) or is buying the Dundee Foods property, in which case it may or may not require rail?


As far as I know, they would be buying the in-place assets, including the main production space and warehouse, two cold warehouses (currently w/o refrigeration), and two rail spurs. I believe that LiDestri removed all production equipment, processing tanks, and storage tanks when they moved the operation back to Rochester. My source tells me that LiDestri left the internal utilities in good, buttoned up condition when they ceased operations although the roof and exteriors will need some work due to no maintenance for the past several years.

Useless to speculate on any rail impact until we know the buyer and what the specific intended use of the facility will be.

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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby poppyl » Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:38 pm

My understanding is that the deal to buy Dundee Foods is just about complete. The new owner is a commercial diary located in the area that is looking to move into a larger space. They now produce and package milk and milk products, including powdered milk, for various institutional clients -- airlines, school systems, etc.

I do not know if there will be any implications for the Corning Secondary traffic as their current location is not served by rail.

Formal announcement will be forthcoming.

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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby lvrr325 » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:00 am

On 8/8 I heard his horn going northbound through Dundee about 8:30 PM and passed him returning southbound at White's Point, maybe 5-10 miles below Geneva, around 11:30 PM. At least I presume it was an HO-6, couldn't see much in the dark except two likely 4-axle units and between 5-10 cars.
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Re: HO6 on the Corning Secondary

Postby poppyl » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:24 pm

Chances are that you are correct that it was HO-6 southbound. FGLK will run occasionally to Himrod after HO-6 has departed Geneva southbound. I was not aware that HO-6 was using four axle power -- usually wide bodies or SD's. I'll try to catch it one night this week to see what its power is.

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