Delaware & Ulster Railroad (DURR) Discussion

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Re: Delaware & Ulster Rail Ride Discussion

Postby Tmasterdu447 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:42 pm

Otto Vondrak wrote:Technically, some of the track at Highmount belongs to Ulster County and could be ripped up at any time. DURR had an agreement in place with CMRR to use the tracks that were just over the county border. DURR approached CMRR about rehabbing and operating the tracks down to Pine Hill, but Ulster County expressly forbid it. That was back in 2013.

As for DURR doing "better" than CMRR, I'd only agree based on the fact that DURR operates on a privately-owned right of way backed up in part with the support of a private charitable foundation; and CMRR is dealing with a hostile county government that places severe restrictions the corridor on which they operate.

Everything else is unsubstantiated hearsay.

Anyhoo, what equipment is DURR purchasing, and what will happen to the locomotives already on the property? Motive power issues seemed to plague DURR over the last few years.

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Doesn't stop the DURR going and asking for a lease/permit with ulster county...

As for the CMRR in Ulster County... They had 35 years to restore track from mp 3 to 41.5 and they only restored mp 3 to 6.5, and mp 21.5 to 27.5. Making 9.1 miles out of 38.5. Horrible company decisions is what is killing that place. Not the county, they promised ulster county to have the track restored and they didn't. If I was the county I would be pissed...

The locos on the property, the 5017 and 116 are operational and in good health. They are just expanding business...

If you get down to the DURR, I'm sure there are familiar faces that would be glad to talk to you!
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Re: Delaware & Ulster Rail Ride Discussion

Postby lvrr325 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:35 pm

Have you seen the huge washouts and missing bridges in that section?
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Re: Delaware & Ulster Rail Ride Discussion

Postby Otto Vondrak » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:20 pm

Tmasterdu447 wrote:Doesn't stop the DURR going and asking for a lease/permit with ulster county...


Sure, they can be turned down again, like they were in 2013.

As for the CMRR in Ulster County... They had 35 years to restore track from mp 3 to 41.5 and they only restored mp 3 to 6.5, and mp 21.5 to 27.5. Making 9.1 miles out of 38.5. Horrible company decisions is what is killing that place. Not the county, they promised ulster county to have the track restored and they didn't. If I was the county I would be pissed...


Not sure where you get your facts from, but it's fairly well documented that the county blocked efforts for CMRR to expand and repair track, not to mention never sent FEMA-approved repair projects to bid and allowed the railroad to fall further into disrepair. Not sure $1 million a year in revenue is "killing the place" but you're entitled to your opinion. Not saying the CMRR hasn't made mistakes, but I'm not sure what to make of someone who just joined a couple months ago and posts under a fake name (I understand you were once president of the LIRR from 1911-1914 and Canadian National Railways from 1922-1932).

The locos on the property, the 5017 and 116 are operational and in good health. They are just expanding business...


So they are getting rid of 1012 and 5106?

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If you get down to the DURR, I'm sure there are familiar faces that would be glad to talk to you!


I'm sure there are, I've got a few friends who work at DURR, it's a neat operation. Unfortunately, I don't get down that way much anymore, and I'm asking my questions here.

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