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New Jersey's obscure abandoned railroads

Postby MaRoFu » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:55 pm

I've learned lately that NJ actually has many abandoned/defunct railroads that can only be found with hard research or by looking at rail maps. Some of you may have heard about the Hoboken waterfront railroad (forgot name), the New Jersey West Line (outside of Gladstone branch), and others, but there are a few ROWs I'm curious about.

- Mendham and Chester (diverges from M&E at Morristown and went to Mendham according to map)
- Unknown ROW branching off of NYS&W east of Newfoundland
- NYS&W switchback junction in same area?
- Former bridge over Hackensack River north of M&E bridge
- Possible Rail in Lincoln Park NJ? (When I checked an old map I noticed a straight line from the MB in Lincoln Park that indicated the existence of some sort of rail branch. Checked location on GE and a ROW exists)
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Re: New Jersey's obscure abandoned railroads

Postby pumpers » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:23 pm

MaRoFu wrote:- Former bridge over Hackensack River north of M&E bridge

This one we discussed here last fall. viewtopic.php?f=127&t=166159&p=1447603#p1446143
it was the first M&E bridge over the Hackensack from when they first built across the meadowlands, which tied into the Erie Long Dock tunnel through Bergen Hill. The Erie Newark & Hudson RR (later known as the Erie Newark Branch) then used it too (Erie running on the M&E!) Eventually the M&E build their own Bergen tunnel and built themselves a new bridge just south of the old one, at the location of the current one, to go to their own tunnel. The Erie took over the old bridge , which went away entirely by 1911 or so. The post has a link to a site with some good schematic maps.
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The Hoboken RR you mention was the Hoboken Shore RR . Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoboken_Shore_Railroad
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Re: New Jersey's obscure abandoned railroads

Postby pumpers » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:35 pm

MaRoFu wrote:- Unknown ROW branching off of NYS&W east of Newfoundland

Green Pond Jct (NYS&W Jct with the CNJ (Wharton & Northern branch) coming up from the south past Picatinny Arsenal) is about 1-2 miles east of Newfoundland. Maybe that's what you are referring to. They interchanged there.
Here's a good site where you can view topo maps through the ages and see RR lines come and go: https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/topoview/viewer/#4/40.01/-100.06
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Re: New Jersey's obscure abandoned railroads

Postby pumpers » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:48 pm

MaRoFu wrote: Mendham and Chester (diverges from M&E at Morristown and went to Mendham according to map)

It was never built. viewtopic.php?f=127&t=51642
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Re: New Jersey's obscure abandoned railroads

Postby rr503 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:05 pm

MaRoFu wrote:- Possible Rail in Lincoln Park NJ? (When I checked an old map I noticed a straight line from the MB in Lincoln Park that indicated the existence of some sort of rail branch. Checked location on GE and a ROW exists)


Do you mean the northbound ROW here? https://www.google.com/maps/place/Linco ... 74.3020933

If so, that's the old NYGL which once headed up to Pompton Jct with the NYSW and then to its eponymous destination. A small portion is still in use up around the NYSW IIRC. I'm sure you already know this, but it's important to keep in mind that the M-B is actually three distinct lines cobbled together: the DL&W Boonton Line (Denville-Lincoln Park) the Erie Greenwood Lake Branch (Lincoln Park-Montclair) and the DL&W Montclair Branch (Montclair-Branch Brook). A lot of the weirdness on/along the line is a result of that history.
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Re: New Jersey's obscure abandoned railroads

Postby CarterB » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:41 pm

If you check out the 1868 and 1872 maps of Pequannock Twp, NJ, it shows a
"rail spur" going North along the West Ditch of Bog and Vly, (now Lincoln Park) which was in reality a horse drawn
tramway for the peat business, originally to the Morris Canal, later to the Morris & Essex Boonton cutoff.
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Re: New Jersey's obscure abandoned railroads

Postby MaRoFu » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:59 pm

So I’m here again to talk about some more railroads:

Montville Quarry Railroad? (connected to M&B)
Railroad in Edgewater/Fort Lee (North of NYS&W yard along River Rd. corridor)
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Re: New Jersey's obscure abandoned railroads

Postby CarterB » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:06 pm

Rockaway River & Montville Railroad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockaway_ ... e_Railroad http://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/ ... n-1903.jpg
NYS&W Hudson River operations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgewater ... ter_Tunnel
Up to 1938, there was also a trolley line that ran to Edgewater with a sharp hairpin curve along the Palisades. Hudson River Line of PSCT
http://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/ ... m-1889.jpg
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