New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby Allen Hazen » Tue May 26, 2009 11:49 pm

"six for CDOT, and six for MNRR so far"

I assume that (as with the MN and CDOT Genesis) Metro-North considersw them all as a single class, assigning them to operations in New York or Connecticut without regard to the paint color? The New Haven inspired CDOT colors are used on some units because Conn DoT finances them: is there an actual difference in their legal ownership status?
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby DutchRailnut » Wed May 27, 2009 6:45 am

Yes the 4 x P32acdm #228 - 231 and 6 x BL20gh # 125 -130 are owned by Connecticut Department of Transportation, so are 2/3th's of M2/4/6 fleet and about 42 Bombardier cars.
The fleet of CDOT is not only painted in CDOT color but assigned seperate sub class numbers.
Their use is in general MNCR pool service.
Ownership is defined by Brass plate on each unit and by blue forms.
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby Allen Hazen » Thu May 28, 2009 5:05 am

Dutch--
Thanks for the details!
As for the two subfleets being operated as a pool, that was my impression: I don't get to Metro North territory very often (it's a problem, living in Australia!), but the one time I have ridden behind a Metro-North liveried P32 was on a Waterbury train, and the one time I have been pulled by a ConnDot P32 was on a train to Wassaic.
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby MBTA1052 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:28 pm

Power wise how do these Engines Perform figuring they are rated at 2200HP or so and how many cars can they pull & Push :-) ???
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby FL9AC » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:22 pm

The HEP diesel is maxed out with four coaches but that was what was spec'd, but main engine-wise it has plenty of HP to pull a very sizeable train. They have rescued 10 car Amtrak consists with engines with no problems.
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby dmclement » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:13 pm

Are there any more of these locos heading for MNCR or CDOT in the future?
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby DutchRailnut » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:45 pm

there are 6 more BL20gh units budgeted, but not yet ordered, maybe they will hold off till next budget cycle and keep the GP35's a bit longer.
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby chucksc » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:56 pm

FL9AC wrote:The HEP diesel is maxed out with four coaches but that was what was spec'd, but main engine-wise it has plenty of HP to pull a very sizeable train. They have rescued 10 car Amtrak consists with engines with no problems.


Don't they have "freight gearing" aka 70 mph instead of 100/110 "passenger gearing"?

If so I guess that should help them pull a few more cars than you would think....
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby DutchRailnut » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:49 am

The Bl20gh is geared at 75 mph, 8 miles lower than a F-10, 110 mph gearing would be high end passenger gearing.
most passenger locomotives were geared to 83 mph gearing, but due to Engineering exess the 100 mph mark could be done.
The BL20gh however is a branchline locomotive, not a mainline locomotive.
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby MEC407 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:54 pm

What are the speed limits on the lines this locomotive is typically used on?
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby DutchRailnut » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:40 pm

50 on Danbury
59 on Waterbury
70 on upper Harlem.
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby MEC407 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:22 pm

Thanks!
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby MBTA1052 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:43 pm

What kind of bell and horn do these engines have?
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby MEC407 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:25 pm

Based on this photo:

http://dieselman.wordpress.com/2008/02/ ... haven-1-2/

The NH-painted units have electronic bells, and what appears to be a Nathan K3LA with the #1 trumpet reversed. It could also be a K3L; if anyone has a video with the horn audible, I can tell you whether it's an LA or an L.
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Re: New BL20GH Locomotive by Brookville

Postby FL9AC » Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:46 pm

All twelve units, both MTA and CDOT have E-bells and here's a video link of one of the CDOT units. I believe it is a K3LA horn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1WrVbE8HbE
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