Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

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Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby DaveBarraza » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:03 am

Riding through westbound at about 10:50, I observed NY&A locos and a cut of cars at the east end of Wyandanch D. E. F. And just west of them another cut with a boxcar of the rails and a loaded center beam lumber car on its side to the north, away from the main tracks.

Bummer.

RR was out in force, like you like.

Will not speculate here, just posting what I saw first hand.
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby Crabman1130 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:28 pm

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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby AlKaLI » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:18 pm

I can't see Crabman's posted images but took a look at Snoozeday after hearing the news on the radio in the AM.

Ouch! Anyone know what happened? From the pictures on-line, looks like the centerbeam flipped on its side near the switch. Too unstable?
Reports also that signal wiring was damaged in the process and will cause further delays on the Ronkonkoma branch.

Would appear that the train was heading to Brookharven. Somebody's load of lumber will be delayed . . .
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby DaveBarraza » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:23 pm

17:23, only three cars remain, the center beam, the box, and a covered hopper coupled to the box.

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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby DaveBarraza » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:58 pm

Crap.

There's a picture here:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 1b9c66df11

the derail apparently functioned as designed.
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:40 pm

That's going to leave a mark,you think? Yup in the wallet! :wink:
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby ccutler » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:41 pm

Oh man...no human error there!
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby DaveBarraza » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:49 am

Observed 10:47 Tuesday:

The center beam has been cut into two pieces and moved aside. Visible now is the carcass of a signal case which has literally been flattened.

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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby Amtrak7 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:33 am

DaveBarraza wrote:Visible now is the carcass of a signal case which has literally been flattened.


Ouch!
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby Amtrak7 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:01 pm

A press release:

http://www.mta.info/press-release/lirr/ ... s-continue

The derailed car came to rest on its side and in a location which made it impossible to re-rail without first off-loading the lumber. To do so, LIRR workers had to undertake the laborious task of cutting away security fencing made of high-gauge steel, enabling NY&A to bring in the machinery needed to remove the lumber.
When that was finally accomplished Monday night, the LIRR assisted in the effort to remove the damaged freight car, cutting it into pieces rather than trying to rerail it, and discovered the full extent of the damage done to its communications infrastructure. The derailed car had knocked down a utility police, sliced through wires and cables and crushed signal machinery.
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby mikey cruz » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:02 pm

They couldn't rerail a centerbeam ? sounds more like LIRR didn't wanna go through the task of making sure the frame wasn't twisted and would hit any platforms.
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby Backshophoss » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:16 pm

It's possible that the centerbeam's frame was bent when it derailed since it was still under load,from the photos
both trucks fell apart as well.
Wonder if NY&A is on the hook for replacing the now cut up car.
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby BobLI » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:19 am

That picture gives Model Railroaders a great under side view if they want to detail a center beam flat car!
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby mikey cruz » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:02 am

Bob = my friend was just saying that to me =) & Backshop I'm thinking that's gotta be the reason they cut it up.
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Re: Trouble at Wyandanch, 3-30

Postby freightguy » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:30 am

Bottom line,

It was cheaper for NYA to cut it up and buy the car from TTZX vs. rent a 10,000 an hour crane to rerail and put back on the trucks.
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