No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jefferson

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No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jefferson

Postby Teutobergerwald » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:04 pm

I saw in another topic that Nassau-Suffolk Lumber in Huntington ceased receiving service from NYA, and that Kleet is going to do so also. It said Kleet was opting for receiving its goods out at the Brookhaven terminal. Is this all true? Why would Kleet have its products shipped to a yard 40 miles away instead of on-site on its own spur? And does this mean no more NYA service to the Huntington team track? Thanks.
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby DogBert » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:50 am

Sounds like it. NY&A probably wants to save time and fuel against servicing a route with few customers. Maybe they gave kleet a sweat deal to go to BRT. Trucking goods from there might be cheaper than a rail crew running up the branch. Not sure I agree without knowing all the facts, but...
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby Teutobergerwald » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:26 pm

I wonder if this means that NYA will no longer pay for the switch in Syosset that is currently unused, which served the former wine warehouse.
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby jayrmli » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:30 am

There's a good chance they haven't had to pay the maintenance fees on that switch for awhile now anyway. All they would have to do is notify LIRR that they will not be using the switch anymore. If LIRR chose to, they could just remove the switch if they wanted.
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby Teutobergerwald » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:34 pm

NYA is still serving its Huntington-area customers, as of this morning. Around 1030 an NYA train was occupying the Northport siding, waiting to go west, with a GP38-2 up front. Couldn't see the other power or the make up of the consist, since I wasn't expecting to see that, given that post about NYA not serving Nassau-Suffolk Lumber anymore & delivering to Kleet out at Brookhaven Yard instead of direct in Huntington anymore.
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby Teutobergerwald » Sun May 03, 2015 8:58 pm

I heard, but did not see for myself, that NYA came out to switch Kleet Lumber yesterday. Good that, for now, NYA is still serving Kleet directly. It doesn't make sense that Kleet would have product sent to Brookhaven Yard just to have it trucked back to Huntington when it can be delivered on-site as-needed.
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby SwingMan » Mon May 11, 2015 2:49 pm

Not sure if it has any legs, but I would think NYAR would charge less for a delivery to Brookhaven because making a trip up the Port Jefferson branch is much more complicated and becoming more and more redundant since they are the last customer on the branch.
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby mainline » Sun May 17, 2015 7:56 pm

Swingman they would have to go thru BRT. BRT is charged $600 less per car. I could see this as a possible advantage. Home Depot wouldn't be thrilled so maybe that rumor is dead.
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby milepost39 » Tue May 19, 2015 7:10 pm

Teutobergerwald wrote:I heard, but did not see for myself, that NYA came out to switch Kleet Lumber yesterday. Good that, for now, NYA is still serving Kleet directly. It doesn't make sense that Kleet would have product sent to Brookhaven Yard just to have it trucked back to Huntington when it can be delivered on-site as-needed.


I can confirm it as my kids play baseball/softball at Peter Farrell park on Oakwood road, and the tracks are right there. On Sat 5/2 #271 came through eastbound with a box car and 4 or 5 lumber cars full, with #155 (?) bringing up the rear. A week later on Sat 5/9 I saw the same consist heading west but the cars were empty.

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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby RRJS3 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:18 am

RS40 came by NASSAU Saturday morning with several centerbeams and a boxcar, a 15 on each end. Would assume they were heading up that way...
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby rr503 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:33 pm

This is slightly off topic, but here I go:
Is NY&A trying to consolidate all of their business on the main line west of riverhead and on the central branch?
Do any of you see them going out to the east end or onto any of the other branches which they don't serve?
I think they have been struck with the same disease as the class 1s...Trunk line syndrome :wink:
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby Teutobergerwald » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:37 pm

Double-door boxcars and 3-4 center beams spotted at Kleet when I passed by westbound around 5pm on Thursday.
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby Teutobergerwald » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:15 am

NYA train in Northport siding on Saturday, 08/29, around 1:40pm.
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Re: No more NYA service east of Hicksville on the Pt. Jeffer

Postby Teutobergerwald » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:52 pm

4-5 loaded center beam flatcars at Kleet this past Saturday afternoon. Nassau-Suffolk Lumber spur completely overgrown and dark rust on the rails. Nothing in Huntington team yard or on Greenlawn team track.
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