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Georgia Southern Railway (fka Georgia Midland)

Postby ashley2771 » Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:35 pm

I visited Swainsboro and Midville recently to check out the Georgia Midland since it took over the old Ogeechee line from Midville to Nunez. They have indeed relettered the old Ogeechee locomotive in Midville to GMR. They are also replacing damaged or old ties over the whole line. There also appear to be at least three customers I could find on the line- a scrap metal operation in Modoc, another scrap metal operation in Swainsboro and the Rayonier lumber mill in Nunez. There may be more but I"m not sure...
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Postby ACLfan » Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:09 am

Great news! It sounds like new life is being pumped into the old railroad!

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What's up with the Georgia Midland?

Postby ashley2771 » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:49 am

Anyone know how the Georgia Midland is doing? Has the traffic improved? Any new equipment over what was on the Ogeechee Railway?
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Postby ashley2771 » Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:39 pm

Although the track looks to be in sad shape, Georgia Midland, formerly the Ogeechee Railway, is still running to Metter to serve a farm facility.
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Postby G&Fman » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:10 pm

There are 3 customers indeed on that part of the old G&F that get service: Swainsboro Recycling (scrap), Royster Clark (fertilizer/potash), and ITT Rayonier at Kirby(lumber). Just a few weeks ago we (I work for NS) were giving the GMR loads of rock for Reeves Construction to be unloaded at a spur near Kirby. Evidently, there's some road construction of sorts, possibly on U.S. 1 near Swainsboro, so we've been giving them almost "unit train" sized cuts about 2-3 times a week. They come from our customer Martin Marietta, a quarry near East Warrenton on the old S&A line, where they also regularly send loads to Dover to the GMR. I handle most of this traffic (among other traffic) from our office in Atlanta.

The rock business has slacked off as a result of the holidays, but I was told Martin Marietta will resume loading after the first of the year. As a result, we've been shoving empty rock hoppers in every available siding between Waynesboro and Bastonville!! We even had to assign one of our Dash 9's to Wrens to help the usual SD40-2 duo move this stuff along with the kaolin and chips/lumber to the yard in Millen!

But back to the GMR. I remember Swainsboro Concrete getting a few loads of rock back in the Ogeechee days, but they haven't received any more since before the GMR took over. I don't know if it's because the customer is located on very bad trackage of the former Wadley Southern and the OGEE didn't think it was worth it to repair, or if the customer went out of business or just quit receiving rail service.

Regardless, the GMR is doing quite nicely on this stretch of former G&F main, seeing as how back in the late '90s I was sending our local (G23) out of Tennille, where I was a yard clerk, over to Swainsboro about once a month.

The Millen switcher, G32, works the interchange at Midville 2-3 times a week.

It's really nice to see a seldom used line get a little life back, moreso if it's a G&F line!!!!!!!! :P

Nice forum, keep talking about those Georgia railroads!!!!!!
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Georgia Midland update

Postby ashley2771 » Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:08 am

Thanks for the update! They are building a bypass around Swainsboro on U.S. 1, which may be what the rock is for. I'm glad to hear they are doing well, since they seemed to have made some investment in the line. My family lives about 15 miles from Wrens, and I'm impressed they are running dash-9s over there- the SD-40s have been a fixture for years.
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Postby G&Fman » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:23 pm

Ahh, so that may be what the rock is for then.....ok.

Yeah, it's unusual to see a Dash 9 now over on the S&A helping both of the SD40-2's. I forgot exactly the tonnage rating of the SD40(-2)'s between Wrens and Waynesboro and Millen (timetable is in my truck), but I know 10,000 tons is really pushing it for 2 of them. With the increase in the rock business from East Warrenton, 10,000 tons and over has been the norm for G33's train out of Wrens. The engines are split up at Wrens when working customers: G31 uses the Dash 9 to work customers in the Wrens and East Warrenton areas, G37 will use both SD40-2's to work the kaolin plants at Stapleton, including Hadco Vet Supply located there also.

I bet it looks pretty cool/unusual to see a big ol' Dash 9 loping along the rails in East Warrenton, moreso when it's running long hood forward on the return trip!!!
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Postby G&Fman » Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:31 am

Yeah, unfortunately there's only one customer left in Metter....Southern States, or what used to be Growers Supply I believe. They get a carload or two of potash/fertilizer every now and then, and that's only when they will go to Metter.

I remember back in the mid '80s when NS still ran to Metter, and there were cars spotted everywhere. There was a woodyard, 2 grain elevators, and of course the Growers Supply at the end of the line that were always choked full of cars. My dad took a picture of me hanging off the side of one of the Southern "Big John" covered hoppers at one of the grain elevators. It has been torn down for a long time now, but the spur/switch is still there unless it got took up recently.

In the early '90s a scrap/recycling yard opened up just outside of town. The OGEE put in a switch and laid down track to get to the facility. They even had a GE 44 tonner they used to switch gons within their plant. But mysteriously it went belly up sometime around the late '90s. When it was in operation, the OGEE went to Metter 5 days a week...........no more after that business left.
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Postby dconlive_ » Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:23 am

G&Fman wrote:There are 3 customers indeed on that part of the old G&F that get service: Swainsboro Recycling (scrap), Royster Clark (fertilizer/potash), and ITT Rayonier at Kirby(lumber)....almost "unit train" sized cuts about 2-3 times a week.

The rock business has slacked off as a result of the holidays, but I was told Martin Marietta will resume loading after the first of the year. As a result, we've been shoving empty rock hoppers in every available siding between Waynesboro and Bastonville!!


Hey G&Fman, welcome to the forum. Glad to have another person onboard who knows Georgia. You mentioned unit trains of rock are going in there for this road construction, how many carloads are you talking?

The line between Midville-Kirby is actually HOG, not GMR, even though that rented NS engine might have GMR painted on it. In either case, it's the same company out of Americus.

There are 4 active customers on the line, in ( ) are the 2004 estimated carloads they hauled last year:
IMC Fertilizer (50)
Rayonier (140)
Swainsboro Recycling (110)
Midville Warehouse (20).

So roughly 320 cars were hauled in/out of there in 2004. If new rock is being hauled in by the train load that would boost the numbers for 2005/2006.
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Postby dconlive_ » Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:30 am

Not sure about the Metter - Dover line. But the Sylvania line is still going. GMR (or Gee Mister as it's called in the biz) hauled 200-250 cars in 2004 to that fertilizer place in North Sylvania. They are expecting to haul about 40% less than that in 2005. So it's still trucking, but no new life to speak of.

Not sure about their other lines (Perry - Ft. Valley and Roberta - Ft. Valley).
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Postby G&Fman » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:35 pm

Roughly 30 or better loads a week so far, although it fluctuates according to how many empties we can get to Martin Marietta. The NS sales/car distribution people are projecting the loads in tons, not individual carloads, so when I get to work tonight I'll try to remember to get the actual ton numbers they are expecting for January.

Millen yard has tapped into the rock business also, as the same company (Reeves Construction) is unloading it at the east end of the yard. Martin Marietta's track can only hold about 25-30 of those Southern/N&W rock aggie hoppers at a time, so they try to split everything evenly more or less between Midville, Millen, and Dover, or load according to the most demand between all 3.

I know the old G&F line is considered the HOG, it's just hard for me to call it that since the other 3 lines (Ardmore-Sylvania, Dover-Metter, Ft Valley-Perry-Roberta) are all considered GMR, and the HOG is way down in Americus.

Oops, I had left out Midville Warehouse as a customer on the old G&F, my fault. Although they hardly take cars, they're still considered a customer.

Those estimates sound about right. I do most of the interchange reporting at Midville and Dover.....sometimes Ardmore.

Both the Dover and Midville lines use a former N&W/NS GP35 each. The 1325 is used on the Dover line, and the 1320 is used on the Midville side.

It's great to have a RR forum that has the same interest in Georgia railroads as I do, moreso about railroads in my area.
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Postby G&Fman » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:32 am

Ok, here are the figures on what can be expected on the Midville line the next couple of months:

32,000 tons is what the facility at Kirby is expecting to unload between now and through February, with the possibility of an additional 7,000 tons if the shaker is installed in time. Otherwise, the trucks will transport that.

Each SOU/N&W rock aggie/hopper has about an average of 110 tons of rock when it leaves Martin Marietta.

Now, take 32,000 tons (providing the shaker doesn't get installed in time), divide by 110 tons....and you're looking at about 290 loads of rock delivered to the GMR...oops, I mean HOG :-D ......at Midville in this time frame, possibly more. Not too shabby.....

We'll have 15 loads delivered to Midville later on today, the first loads of rock for Kirby since before the holidays. So actually, around 275 more loads can be expected...
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Georgia Midland update

Postby ashley2771 » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:16 pm

Thanks for all the info on the HOG/GMR. I thought they were a little busier they you all are saying, but apparently even the current action is an improvement. Do you expect any rock coming out of Midville on next Monday, Jan. 16 (MLK Day)?

Also, Ga DOT is widening US 25 from Millen clear to Augusta, which may be the reason for the increased rock to Millen.
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What's up with the Georgia Midland

Postby ashley2771 » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:20 pm

Statesboro and Register still have customers on the Dover-Metter line. Statesboro has Bulloch Fertilizer, Howard Lumber and Reeves Construction. I have also seen cars spotted at a grain elevator in Register.

The trackage goes right next to Wal-mart distribution, but they don't serve it. That would be great business...
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Postby G&Fman » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:22 am

G&Fman wrote:We'll have 15 loads delivered to Midville later on today, the first loads of rock for Kirby since before the holidays.


Gotta correct myself. Those 15 were the SECOND cut of loads since the holidays.
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