CNJ "Sputnik" question

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CNJ "Sputnik" question

Postby EDM5970 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:42 pm

CNJ used to run a consist that had several RDC-1s and one of the 1300 series round roof coaches, buried in the middle. The local name for this consist was the "Sputnik"; I imagine this was back in the late '50s and named after the Soviet satellite. I know the 1300s had Adlake air conditioning by each and every seat, and the lighting load could have been handled by a 64 VDC trainline jumper from the Budds, but how did they heat the car? DID they heat the car, or was this simply a warm weather operation only?
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Re: CNJ "Sputnik" question

Postby ex Budd man » Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:44 pm

The RDCs used waste heat from the diesels for car heating so they couldn't contribute anything. Perhaps they had oil fired heat from an onboard boiler. I never saw them is service so I'm guessing.
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Re: CNJ "Sputnik" question

Postby EDM5970 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:03 pm

I'm still wondering how they heated and lighted the coach. (I know how I would do it today, but that's another story.)

I remember seeing a photo somewhere, and since I haven't found anything online (yet), it must have been in a book or at a show. Someone must have ridden it, shot it or seen the same photo I saw. Anyone?
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Re: CNJ "Sputnik" question

Postby 56-57 » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:16 pm

I've read somewhere (wish to heck I could recall where) that the Sputnik coach was the 1317.. The Green Mountain folks have a bunch of them, the 17 may be one of theirs.

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Re: CNJ "Sputnik" question

Postby EDM5970 » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:00 pm

I've been in touch with Green Mountain, and they do in fact have the 1317. I believe the CNJ/LV Color Guide had 1317 listed as the 'Sputnik' car, which later became the first cab car. Scott Whitney at GMRC was kind enough to post a list of ALL the 1300s and dispositions on the NJ Transit forum, cab car thread. I'm still looking for images of 1317 with the Budds, and a little more technical information, though.
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