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Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby Nile » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:11 pm

I picked up an old original photograph of an open-sided streetcar "#4052" marked on the front body, "PENN-HH" on the destination board, "#15" on a small changeable screen inside the windshield, "Springfield" on a sideplate above the the seats near the roof, "Public Service" on the same panel as the Springfield marking, with the conductor and the driver standing on the running board. Here is what I think: Being open-sided I would think it is a summer trolley, the Springfield line, car #4052, route #15, destination Penn Station, and I don't know what HH Means. The photograph looks maybe from the 20's? On the back it is marked "Stanley Mourant, Photographer, 143 Warren St., Newark, N.J. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby HBLR » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:27 am

From wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pu ... lway_lines

It's wikipedia, so who knows, but i'll keep looking. I believe HH is hudson county or hoboken? I'm not sure, will keep digging!
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby HBLR » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:31 am

No I'm not a railroad professional, but that doesn't mean I can't provide first hand observational comments.
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby HBLR » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:37 am

Based on that map i'd say it was running near elizabeth?
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby CarterB » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:55 pm

PSCT had several 'open' cars they operated on various lines in summer months, including the #15 Nutley Line to http://www.firstbaptistbloomfield.org/belleville.htm (Photo #2 Hillside Pleasure Park, Belleville, NJ.
The Springfield route was #25 and went to Olympic Park, Irvington/Maplewood border
http://mysite.verizon.net/scheurle/trolley.html

Here's a photo of some: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1541500
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby HBLR » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:11 pm

Very cool stuff there. So sad we lost so much of that system, only a tiny fraction will ever see rail vehicles ever again.
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby Nile » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:56 pm

If you want I can try to post an attachment. Pretty cool photograph. I am located in Vero Beach, Florida and I bought it here. Weird how things get to places.
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby CarterB » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:35 am

Nile, Please post if you can, or post to webshots.com and let us know the url.
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby Nile » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:40 am

Here is the photo link. I do not know how to post a picture directly on here and maybe it can't be done at all.

<a href="http://s95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/TerryLee_2006/?action=view&amp;current=TrolleyNewark4052SpringfieldOpenSide.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/TerryLee_2006/TrolleyNewark4052SpringfieldOpenSide.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Try this.
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby Nile » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:03 am

Here is the photograph. I found this in Florida here where I currently live. Weird how things get in odd places so far away.
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby CarterB » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:51 am

Nile,
Nice photo, good to have for PSCT collection.
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby frostyorange » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:47 pm

To think those used to run all over the country.
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby Leo Sullivan » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:45 am

For what it is worth, here's the same car in downtown Newark.
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby kilroy » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:30 pm

Downtown doesn't look like that now, that's for sure.

Great old time photo though.
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Re: Help Identifying Old Trolley Photo

Postby CarterB » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:51 pm

Any idea where in Newark the photo was taken? Market St at Washington?
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